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purist bashing...is it something that the ignorant and usless players partake in?
purist bashing...is it something that the ignorant and usless players partake in?
i gather this is a forum for the discussion of Irish trad music, so why is it that there is a group of "purist bashers" indignant when ever someone says that what they are doing is not traditional? are they just musicians that clearly cant play that well, so need to maybe tweak about here and there and improvise when ever they think it fits.......or are they just up themselves tits who think they are the "tradition"?
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"its call self p*ss take ethical blend...... another purist basher maybe ethical blend?"
I struggle to understand this kind of incoherent ranting. Would someone translate it please?
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Probably it's just people with a different opinion than your own. Surely you don't believe that the 'tradition' has not changed in 200 or 100 or even 50 years? I think the subject's probably been beaten to death here from both sides. It's only rock n roll....
Re: purist bashing...is it something that the ignorant and usless players partake in?
just putting it out there, i am not saying that the tradition is stagnant at all, that would be ridiculous! i am just remarking on the fact that there is a certain section of session.orgers that seem to very touchy about the fact that any criticism on the what goes and doesnt go in irish traditional music is then shot down and branded as being purist...whats wrong with being a "purist"... if it wasnt for the "purist" there wouldnt have been the revival of irish traditional music at all and then we wouldnt be on here discussing it!!!
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The thing that makes me uncomfortable about this notion is: what's "pure"? Presumably no session could be classed as "pure", since they're a recent phenomenon, aren't they? I'm also assuming that no modern player is strictly "pure", since they all seem to play very differently from the way anybody played even a short time ago.
Then, if we go back to, ooh, I don't know, say, the turn of the eighteenth/nineteenth centuries, you'll find all sorts of 'foreign influences creeping in.
I mean, I don't care; in the words of a recent thread "it's all great". But what does anybody - you, maybe, irishmuso - mean by "pure"?
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I can appreciate those that want to defend and protect this music from the ignorant. Without them, a band like "b*witched!" might someday be lumped in with Irish music simply because they're from Ireland. However, I am also exhausted by those who think they have learned all there is to know. A little humility even for a God of Irish trad will go along way in this world. Time to get down off your high-horse before somebody knocks you off.
Re: purist bashing...is it something that the ignorant and usless players partake in?
It's probably bashing in general that the ignorant and useless take part in. There's so many other ways to express yourself that involve the actual potential for communication.
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I don't know, when I think of "purist" in the ITM sense, I picture a crusty trad musician who believes in a hierarchy of trad instruments (pipes, fiddles and flutes over mandos and banjos, etc.), and is stubborn to change and sees a guitar at a session as an intrusion. I don't agree with provincial thinking, but purists don't bother me much because they were always a part of ITM and always will be, or at least I hope so. Purists in any artform are kind of like superglue, they can be stiff and unforgiving, but they do hold things together nicely. This is nothing unique to ITM. The same can be said of blues, bluegrass/appalachian, etc. I've posted it here before, Bob Dylan met with a good number of boos from "folkies" in the states when he played electric for the first time at the Newport Folk Festival in 1965 because they had idolized him and felt alienated. They were purists too, and they're still around. Good for them, and good for Bob for doing what he felt artistically driven to do. Good for the purists in ITM for standing their ground, and good for Andy Irvine for mixing things up and adding his instrumentation and Eastern Euro influences. Is this anything new or unique to ITM? I think not. All part of the equation, I say.
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There are different types of purist. There's the type who love a certain aspects of the music and concentrate on those, and that's great and deserves respect. Then there are the self obsessed, do it my way or you're sh!te, everyone else is the anti-christ type of purist. They can get tae feck.
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I think that labelling someone a "purist" isn't necessarily negative. I consider the die hard purists something like the right wingers, and I'm a left winger (rather liberal)... in both senses. So I think some conflict is inevidtable. However, I think when some on here use "purist" as an insulting term, it is probably used in self defense because they feel they, too, are being personally attacked for their own view points. I think to call those who don't consider themselves total "purists" ignorant or incapable is just as much rubbish as calling a so-called purist any number of insulting names. It's all rather 4 grade lunch room to me. I'd rather play with musicians who love to play, no matter their playing level, who are respectful of all players, no matter their background, and who,in general, want to have a great time doing what they love with others doing what they love!
Re: purist bashing...is it something that the ignorant and usless players partake in?
Yes a lot of people that booed Dylan were doing it just because he had gone electric but I think the main concern was that it was electric and crap! The actual music was awful. He got better though with time. Still his best albums were the early ones though, particularly The Freewheelin'.
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Tommy Peoples and Shane MacGowan have already arm-wrestled over this issue.
Tension was thick. Money changed hands. Exhortations were shouted. Early on, Shane had Tommy's bow arm bent back precariously. Twelve tense minutes passed before Tommy—calmly drawing from deep reserves—slowly willed things back to vertical.
Then I left to pick up my wife's re-lined waders. Anyone hear who won?
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You can get waders re-lined? I didn't know that. Mine are in desperate need.
In my limited experience, the most vociferous self-proclaimed "purists" in the session world are not life-long players with a million tunes in their head. Rather, they are somewhat new converts and behave much the way a religious zealot acts in evangelizing their new faith.
The seasoned muso's I have met all behave more like elegant care-takers, setting a grand example with their beautiful playing.
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Ennis almost certainly would never have had his waders re-lined. (That's the impression I have anyway) BTW, what did the bill for that come to, NEW Pure Drop? At some time in all our lives, each of us must come to a decision about this procedure: re-line, or not re-line.
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Yes the tradition is always evolving and nothing is written in stone and there will always be people within the tradition who push the boundries etc etc.
It seems to me that the people who I often hear bash "purists" are not people like that, but rather are people who were raised outside the tradition, people who are newbies to it, people who are mostly or entirely ignorant of the tradition itself.
There's a vast number of people here in the US who hear some old Chieftans album and want to play Irish music and get some Mel Bay book with horrible versions of a few hackneyed Irish tunes and form a band with Baroque recorders and Appalachian dulcimers and a bodhran or two and go around doing performances. These are people who have never heard any genuine Irish players or music (beyond perhaps a Chieftans album from the 1970's). They've never heard of rolls or triplets and have no clue about the style that Irish tunes are traditionally played in.
If anyone who comes from a background of playing Irish traditional music hears these people play they might have a less-than-enthusiastic response and are promptly bashed as being a "purist".
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Richard, while I totally understand your position, you have to understand that all "newbies" start somewhere... and it is the less than receptive welcome they get from those that consider themselves "purist" that jade them. I wasn't raised in the tradition, and yes, the first 'IRISH" music I heard was the Cheiftains when I was 9. I feel I do just fine. I'm no Natatlie McMaster or anything, but I do alright. I think sometimes the so-called "purists" are sometimes so rigid and prejudiced when they see or hear something they feel is outside of the "pure" tradition that, in fact, they aren't really promoting the tradition in the sense of the driving force that draws people into it. I think if the scene were a little more laid back, everyone would benefit.
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I think the argument of "pure" vs "fusion" is limited to recording groups and touring bands for the most part and is of little concern to anyone really except those who choose to listen to it. In relation to sessions it becomes a concern if you get together with your pals for a few tunes at a session and someone brings some sort of instrument that hasn't been widely accepted, if at all, and starts pounding out or blasting out disruptive racket. Then when you ask them to please curb their inventiveness so you can get on with playing the tunes, you are accused of being a "purist" i.e. close-minded snob.
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Who knows and who cares? This is another great example of a purely negative thread that doesn't matter an ounce when it comes to anything important. It does, however, create a nice rift where we should be united. If there's purist bashing (or fusion bashing, or whatever else), it's none of your business, and shouldn't bother you at all. Play what you play and enjoy it thoroughly, and then don't worry about the rest.
Cheers,
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I think it's about when world's collide, Marty, or at least that's my take. I don't tell people what their sessions should be like, and there are sessions in town I don't go to because they aren't my cup of tea, but if they come around to our session and assume we should do as they do, and we get accused of being snobs when we point out that what they're doing isn't meshing with what we're doing--we get accused of being purists... snobs, etc.
Dealing with the "I'm more pure than thou" crowd is equally annoying. We had one young up-start come down out of the mountains proclaiming how we were "doing it wrong" and acting like he was the Messiah who was sent from on high to rescue ITM from us heathens. Either way, people need to realize the difference between imposing their preferences and just sharing and celebrating the music.
purist bashing...is it something that the ignorant and usless players partake in?
purist bashing...is it something that the ignorant and usless players partake in?
i gather this is a forum for the discussion of Irish trad music, so why is it that there is a group of "purist bashers" indignant when ever someone says that what they are doing is not traditional? are they just musicians that clearly cant play that well, so need to maybe tweak about here and there and improvise when ever they think it fits.......or are they just up themselves tits who think they are the "tradition"?
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by irishmuso
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who knows?
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by buggleskelly
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If you were really a "purist" you wouldn't also describe yourself as a "god of irish trad".
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by ethical blend
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its call self p*ss take ethical blend...... another purist basher maybe ethical blend?
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by irishmuso
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Some of the purists are ignorant and useless too. In fact this site is the perfect platform for the ignorant and useless.
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by bogman
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"its call self p*ss take ethical blend...... another purist basher maybe ethical blend?"
I struggle to understand this kind of incoherent ranting. Would someone translate it please?
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by Harrisonix
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It's OK, irishmuso, I was just taking the p*ss.
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by ethical blend
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Probably it's just people with a different opinion than your own. Surely you don't believe that the 'tradition' has not changed in 200 or 100 or even 50 years? I think the subject's probably been beaten to death here from both sides. It's only rock n roll....
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by shanty
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"people with a different opinion than your own"
kill them.
That's traditional in some countries.
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by showaddydadito
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"Its only rock and roll"?
(In the spirit of the upcoming pantomime season....)
"Oh no it's not........"
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by 'S dat you, O'Flibberty?
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Oh, Ok then ...
Oh yes it is!
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by ethical blend
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just putting it out there, i am not saying that the tradition is stagnant at all, that would be ridiculous! i am just remarking on the fact that there is a certain section of session.orgers that seem to very touchy about the fact that any criticism on the what goes and doesnt go in irish traditional music is then shot down and branded as being purist...whats wrong with being a "purist"... if it wasnt for the "purist" there wouldnt have been the revival of irish traditional music at all and then we wouldnt be on here discussing it!!!
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by irishmuso
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as i said anyone branding anyone as purist is ignorant and most likely a useless player!
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by irishmuso
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harrisonix did you want me to phonetically spell it for you?
maybe english isnt your strong point?
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by irishmuso
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The thing that makes me uncomfortable about this notion is: what's "pure"? Presumably no session could be classed as "pure", since they're a recent phenomenon, aren't they? I'm also assuming that no modern player is strictly "pure", since they all seem to play very differently from the way anybody played even a short time ago.
Then, if we go back to, ooh, I don't know, say, the turn of the eighteenth/nineteenth centuries, you'll find all sorts of 'foreign influences creeping in.
I mean, I don't care; in the words of a recent thread "it's all great". But what does anybody - you, maybe, irishmuso - mean by "pure"?
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by ethical blend
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"as i said anyone branding anyone as purist is ignorant and most likely a useless player"
from your profile "purist and god of irish trad" - you are branding yourself a purist. So you say the rest yourself. Keep practicing.
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by bogman
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In my experience, most "purists" and "purist-bashers" are speaking from a position of ignorance and should be ignored anyway.
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by Tirno
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I can appreciate those that want to defend and protect this music from the ignorant. Without them, a band like "b*witched!" might someday be lumped in with Irish music simply because they're from Ireland. However, I am also exhausted by those who think they have learned all there is to know. A little humility even for a God of Irish trad will go along way in this world. Time to get down off your high-horse before somebody knocks you off.
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by Jusa Nutter Eejit
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It's probably bashing in general that the ignorant and useless take part in. There's so many other ways to express yourself that involve the actual potential for communication.
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by SWFL Fiddler
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listen, I grew up in Texas, and branding anyone as anything is not funny. That hot iron really hurts!
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by Nate Ryan
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BTW, I wasn't sure if the Texans branded as a purist, or just the property of the "Circle P" ranch
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by Nate Ryan
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The Corrs are very Pure - pure sh*te
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by 'S dat you, O'Flibberty?
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I don't know, when I think of "purist" in the ITM sense, I picture a crusty trad musician who believes in a hierarchy of trad instruments (pipes, fiddles and flutes over mandos and banjos, etc.), and is stubborn to change and sees a guitar at a session as an intrusion. I don't agree with provincial thinking, but purists don't bother me much because they were always a part of ITM and always will be, or at least I hope so. Purists in any artform are kind of like superglue, they can be stiff and unforgiving, but they do hold things together nicely. This is nothing unique to ITM. The same can be said of blues, bluegrass/appalachian, etc. I've posted it here before, Bob Dylan met with a good number of boos from "folkies" in the states when he played electric for the first time at the Newport Folk Festival in 1965 because they had idolized him and felt alienated. They were purists too, and they're still around. Good for them, and good for Bob for doing what he felt artistically driven to do. Good for the purists in ITM for standing their ground, and good for Andy Irvine for mixing things up and adding his instrumentation and Eastern Euro influences. Is this anything new or unique to ITM? I think not. All part of the equation, I say.
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by Jimmy B
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bah!!!!! if for every wasted word i'd learn a worthy note, i wouldnt need to practise so hard!!!!!!!!!!!
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by fiddlemax
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There are different types of purist. There's the type who love a certain aspects of the music and concentrate on those, and that's great and deserves respect. Then there are the self obsessed, do it my way or you're sh!te, everyone else is the anti-christ type of purist. They can get tae feck.
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by bogman
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I think that labelling someone a "purist" isn't necessarily negative. I consider the die hard purists something like the right wingers, and I'm a left winger (rather liberal)... in both senses. So I think some conflict is inevidtable. However, I think when some on here use "purist" as an insulting term, it is probably used in self defense because they feel they, too, are being personally attacked for their own view points. I think to call those who don't consider themselves total "purists" ignorant or incapable is just as much rubbish as calling a so-called purist any number of insulting names. It's all rather 4 grade lunch room to me. I'd rather play with musicians who love to play, no matter their playing level, who are respectful of all players, no matter their background, and who,in general, want to have a great time doing what they love with others doing what they love!
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by Fiddlechick7
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Sorry for the typos, still have my arm in a sling!
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by Fiddlechick7
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You'll just have to play the banjo until it gets better then.
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by gam
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I think I can basically agree with fiddlechick, but I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I stop telling banjo jokes
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by Nate Ryan
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Should we define our terms?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGzJdoMeoQY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcEEAjGtAkY
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by SWFL Fiddler
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Yes a lot of people that booed Dylan were doing it just because he had gone electric but I think the main concern was that it was electric and crap! The actual music was awful. He got better though with time. Still his best albums were the early ones though, particularly The Freewheelin'.
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by No Cause For Alarm
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Reg: If you want to join the People's Front of Judea, you have to really hate the Romans.
Brian: I do!
Reg: Oh yeah, how much?
Brian: A lot!
Reg: Right, you're in.
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by Lint - upon - Tweed
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I'm in the Judean People's Front.
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by Jimmy B
"Folk You: 50 Years of the Newport Folk Festival"
http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2009/07/folk-you-50-years-of-the-newport-folk-festival.html
there is a sense of experimentation; as current festival producer [and Paste editor-at-large] Jay Sweet puts it, “Newport is where Dylan went electric and the Pixies went acoustic.”
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by Ben Steen
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Tommy Peoples and Shane MacGowan have already arm-wrestled over this issue.
Tension was thick. Money changed hands. Exhortations were shouted. Early on, Shane had Tommy's bow arm bent back precariously. Twelve tense minutes passed before Tommy—calmly drawing from deep reserves—slowly willed things back to vertical.
Then I left to pick up my wife's re-lined waders. Anyone hear who won?
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by NEW Pure Drop® Ear Canal Oil
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which one is the purist?
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by Ben Steen
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You can get waders re-lined? I didn't know that. Mine are in desperate need.
In my limited experience, the most vociferous self-proclaimed "purists" in the session world are not life-long players with a million tunes in their head. Rather, they are somewhat new converts and behave much the way a religious zealot acts in evangelizing their new faith.
The seasoned muso's I have met all behave more like elegant care-takers, setting a grand example with their beautiful playing.
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by Jusa Nutter Eejit
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Ah, ye olde ailment known as "Trying too hard".
Nice sentiment Jusa, let the music do the talking.
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by SWFL Fiddler
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I thought Seamus Ennis was vociferous. Guess I was wrong about that.
# Posted on November 13th 2009 by Ben Steen
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Ennis almost certainly would never have had his waders re-lined. (That's the impression I have anyway) BTW, what did the bill for that come to, NEW Pure Drop? At some time in all our lives, each of us must come to a decision about this procedure: re-line, or not re-line.
# Posted on November 14th 2009 by Atahualpa Quigley
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Yes the tradition is always evolving and nothing is written in stone and there will always be people within the tradition who push the boundries etc etc.
It seems to me that the people who I often hear bash "purists" are not people like that, but rather are people who were raised outside the tradition, people who are newbies to it, people who are mostly or entirely ignorant of the tradition itself.
There's a vast number of people here in the US who hear some old Chieftans album and want to play Irish music and get some Mel Bay book with horrible versions of a few hackneyed Irish tunes and form a band with Baroque recorders and Appalachian dulcimers and a bodhran or two and go around doing performances. These are people who have never heard any genuine Irish players or music (beyond perhaps a Chieftans album from the 1970's). They've never heard of rolls or triplets and have no clue about the style that Irish tunes are traditionally played in.
If anyone who comes from a background of playing Irish traditional music hears these people play they might have a less-than-enthusiastic response and are promptly bashed as being a "purist".
# Posted on November 15th 2009 by Richard D Cook
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Richard, while I totally understand your position, you have to understand that all "newbies" start somewhere... and it is the less than receptive welcome they get from those that consider themselves "purist" that jade them. I wasn't raised in the tradition, and yes, the first 'IRISH" music I heard was the Cheiftains when I was 9. I feel I do just fine. I'm no Natatlie McMaster or anything, but I do alright. I think sometimes the so-called "purists" are sometimes so rigid and prejudiced when they see or hear something they feel is outside of the "pure" tradition that, in fact, they aren't really promoting the tradition in the sense of the driving force that draws people into it. I think if the scene were a little more laid back, everyone would benefit.
# Posted on November 15th 2009 by Fiddlechick7
I do one the tradition to continue to be passed along . . .
Fair play, but if it's alright with everyone I am not quite ready to consider myself a promoter. ;)
# Posted on November 15th 2009 by Ben Steen
Coffee 1st ~ then respond
I want the trad . . .
# Posted on November 15th 2009 by Ben Steen
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So... Richard is the purist and Fiddlechick7 is the purist basher? Just want to make sure I'm following this.
# Posted on November 16th 2009 by shanty
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It's all so confusing....or are the purists the 'bashers' bashing those who are not pure?
# Posted on November 16th 2009 by shanty
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I think the argument of "pure" vs "fusion" is limited to recording groups and touring bands for the most part and is of little concern to anyone really except those who choose to listen to it. In relation to sessions it becomes a concern if you get together with your pals for a few tunes at a session and someone brings some sort of instrument that hasn't been widely accepted, if at all, and starts pounding out or blasting out disruptive racket. Then when you ask them to please curb their inventiveness so you can get on with playing the tunes, you are accused of being a "purist" i.e. close-minded snob.
# Posted on November 16th 2009 by Phantom Button
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Who knows and who cares? This is another great example of a purely negative thread that doesn't matter an ounce when it comes to anything important. It does, however, create a nice rift where we should be united. If there's purist bashing (or fusion bashing, or whatever else), it's none of your business, and shouldn't bother you at all. Play what you play and enjoy it thoroughly, and then don't worry about the rest.
Cheers,
# Posted on November 16th 2009 by MR.
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I think it's about when world's collide, Marty, or at least that's my take. I don't tell people what their sessions should be like, and there are sessions in town I don't go to because they aren't my cup of tea, but if they come around to our session and assume we should do as they do, and we get accused of being snobs when we point out that what they're doing isn't meshing with what we're doing--we get accused of being purists... snobs, etc.
Dealing with the "I'm more pure than thou" crowd is equally annoying. We had one young up-start come down out of the mountains proclaiming how we were "doing it wrong" and acting like he was the Messiah who was sent from on high to rescue ITM from us heathens. Either way, people need to realize the difference between imposing their preferences and just sharing and celebrating the music.
# Posted on November 17th 2009 by Phantom Button
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What is a good definition of Irish Trad anyway?
# Posted on November 17th 2009 by celticagent
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Well said, Marty.
# Posted on November 17th 2009 by Ben Steen