Hello, yesterday I wrote a tune, today I posted it on the tune section. It's the first time that I write a tune and I'm not very sure if the ABC is correct. Can you give me some suggestions or comment? Thank you very much!
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
The best way to check would be to paste the ABCs into the Concertina.net tune convert-a-matic and checking the sheet music to see if it is what you intended.
For starters I would suggest you change where your bar lines are. You have posted it as a slip jig so it needs 9 beats to the bar. Some of your bars have 6 and others have 3. If you divide it up into bars of 9 though you are left with some spare notes at the end of each part. Maybe that is what you intended though. It is your tune after all.
Doesn't immediately grab me but that is all a matter of taste.
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
Did you read Jeremy's suggestion about submitting original tunes?
"Can I submit my own compositions?
Well... The Session isn't really intended for that. If you do post one of your own compositions, then you must do your "penance", so to speak, by balancing each original composition with about five trad tunes."
For this reason, I usually post my own compositions in my profile, and not clutter up the archive with things that nobody is ever going to want to play. (Although, a couple of my tunes have been posted into the archive by other people...)
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
Well, thank you for those answers. I don't want to put all my own compositions on the website, It was simply to submit my first own tune for to know if my way to write a tune is correct. I will search some Faq's or some tutorials now. It's some No Cause For Alarm's answer-like that I need. But thanks again.
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
3 beats to the bar. 3 groups of 3 quavers. Or 3 dotted crotchets if we're being pedantic, Where you tap your foot. Only nine beats if you're particularly manic...
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
In conventional music terms, slip jigs do have 9 beats to the bar. "9/8" means 9 beats to the bar, carried by 1/8 notes. But we more commonly think of them as having just 3 strong--or down--beats.
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
That's all well and good but if someone is posting their tune on here and they have got 6 quavers in one bar and 3 in another then maybe it is best to keep it simple.
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
In conventional music terms, and to keep it simple...
It's a time signature, not a fraction. Just looks like a fraction. In the same way a dolphin looks like a fish.
9/8 is a compound time signature. Compound time signatures comprise groups of threes. A few examples 12/8, Quadruple time, four beats, each a dotted crotchet. 6/4, Duple time, two beats, each a dotted minim. And while not wishing to belabour the point....
9/8. Three beats. Each beat a dottet crotchet.
And like any other triple time thythm. One down (strong) beat. Two others.
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
And Fr-Ma has clearly already learned that jig tunes tend to have notes in groups of 3 quavers. His transcription had that. It just did not have the correct number of notes to a bar. Anyway the tune is not a slip jig at all. Written out properly it is a 6/8 jig with 6 quavers to the bar or 2 beats if you so prefer.
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
Thank you for your interest in my query. After all, mistakes are benefic, In practice makes perfect. I will learn, practice and listen a lot, because this music is very pleasant to play and listen.
Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
Hello, yesterday I wrote a tune, today I posted it on the tune section. It's the first time that I write a tune and I'm not very sure if the ABC is correct. Can you give me some suggestions or comment? Thank you very much!
Fred.
# Posted on September 24th 2009 by Fr-Ma
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
Oups, le link! : http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/9920
# Posted on September 24th 2009 by Fr-Ma
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
The best way to check would be to paste the ABCs into the Concertina.net tune convert-a-matic and checking the sheet music to see if it is what you intended.
http://www.concertina.net/tunes_convert.html
For starters I would suggest you change where your bar lines are. You have posted it as a slip jig so it needs 9 beats to the bar. Some of your bars have 6 and others have 3. If you divide it up into bars of 9 though you are left with some spare notes at the end of each part. Maybe that is what you intended though. It is your tune after all.
Doesn't immediately grab me but that is all a matter of taste.
# Posted on September 24th 2009 by No Cause For Alarm
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
If you write it as a straight 6/8 jig then the bars balance:
X: 1
T: Strange Dance, The
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
R: jig
K: Emin
EEE BBB | eee ggg | eee _e3 | ccc BBB |
FFF EEE | BBB eee | _e3 ccc | BBB FFF :|
EEE GGG | EGE AAA | EEE GGG | FFF E3 |
EEE GGG | EEE AAA | BAG AGF | GFD E3 :|
# Posted on September 24th 2009 by No Cause For Alarm
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
Did you read Jeremy's suggestion about submitting original tunes?
"Can I submit my own compositions?
Well... The Session isn't really intended for that. If you do post one of your own compositions, then you must do your "penance", so to speak, by balancing each original composition with about five trad tunes."
For this reason, I usually post my own compositions in my profile, and not clutter up the archive with things that nobody is ever going to want to play. (Although, a couple of my tunes have been posted into the archive by other people...)
# Posted on September 24th 2009 by Reverend
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
Well, thank you for those answers. I don't want to put all my own compositions on the website, It was simply to submit my first own tune for to know if my way to write a tune is correct. I will search some Faq's or some tutorials now. It's some No Cause For Alarm's answer-like that I need. But thanks again.
# Posted on September 24th 2009 by Fr-Ma
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
I never came across a slip jig that had nine beats to the bar. Life is surely an education. Mind you, I've met bodhran owners who think that.
# Posted on September 25th 2009 by Steve Shaw
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
3 beats to the bar. 3 groups of 3 quavers. Or 3 dotted crotchets if we're being pedantic, Where you tap your foot. Only nine beats if you're particularly manic...
# Posted on September 25th 2009 by EnDaC
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
In conventional music terms, slip jigs do have 9 beats to the bar. "9/8" means 9 beats to the bar, carried by 1/8 notes. But we more commonly think of them as having just 3 strong--or down--beats.
# Posted on September 25th 2009 by Will Harmon
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
That's all well and good but if someone is posting their tune on here and they have got 6 quavers in one bar and 3 in another then maybe it is best to keep it simple.
# Posted on September 25th 2009 by No Cause For Alarm
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
I thought you very admirably restrained in your response, No Cause ..
# Posted on September 25th 2009 by the wounded hussar
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
I agree with you, NCFA. I was just explaining why some people think in terms of 9 beats to the bar in 9/8. For Steve's edufication.
# Posted on September 25th 2009 by Will Harmon
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
slip jigs should not be played manic
its their pulse that carries them
# Posted on September 25th 2009 by zippydw
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
In conventional music terms, and to keep it simple...
It's a time signature, not a fraction. Just looks like a fraction. In the same way a dolphin looks like a fish.
9/8 is a compound time signature. Compound time signatures comprise groups of threes. A few examples 12/8, Quadruple time, four beats, each a dotted crotchet. 6/4, Duple time, two beats, each a dotted minim. And while not wishing to belabour the point....
9/8. Three beats. Each beat a dottet crotchet.
And like any other triple time thythm. One down (strong) beat. Two others.
# Posted on September 25th 2009 by EnDaC
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
While agreeing with NCFA of course. Start simple.
# Posted on September 25th 2009 by EnDaC
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
And Fr-Ma has clearly already learned that jig tunes tend to have notes in groups of 3 quavers. His transcription had that. It just did not have the correct number of notes to a bar. Anyway the tune is not a slip jig at all. Written out properly it is a 6/8 jig with 6 quavers to the bar or 2 beats if you so prefer.
I am glad we are all in agreement though.
# Posted on September 26th 2009 by No Cause For Alarm
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
All done?
# Posted on September 26th 2009 by EnDaC
Re: Need some help concerning a tune that I wrote.
Thank you for your interest in my query. After all, mistakes are benefic, In practice makes perfect. I will learn, practice and listen a lot, because this music is very pleasant to play and listen.
Thank you for your help.
# Posted on September 27th 2009 by Fr-Ma