Whilst on our way to the Bonniconlon show a couple of weeks ago, they played a track on Mid West radio called "How Elvis became a Carlowman" which was on Richie Kavanagh's latest album I think. He was due to play later at the show. It was based on a genealogist's tracing back of Elvis's family to when a William Presley of Carlow emigrated to the US. Firstly it's sung in Richie's quite comedic style, and when a band member complains that that isn't how Elvis would have done it, it's repeated "Rock and Roll" style... I think you had to be there!
Seeing as the Grady who left Ennis in the mid-19th c. was pretty impoverished, I don't think there was much slave ownership on his part, at least, Hup.
Mr Ali is due in Ennis on 1st September to receive the Freedom of the Town, so he doesn't appear to have any misgivings.
Yes! But aren't we all related? We are all out of Africa. And as you trace back the generations the numbers of your relatives literally increase exponentially (2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 great, 16 gg, 32 ggg, 64, 128, 512, 1024 et cetera...), so the reality of you being related to whoever you want is feasible!
I like to think I'm a Black, Jewish, Vietnamese, Bulgarian, Manx , Navajo Londoner and I expect if I did enough research or had DNA scans I could get the evidence to support that.
So 40 generations back, I had 2 to the 40th power ancestors. That's only about 1000 years ago that I had over a trillion ancestors, i.e. about 20 times the current population of the world.
“And as you trace back the generations the numbers of your relatives literally increase exponentially (2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 great, 16 gg, 32 ggg, 64, 128, 512, 1024 et cetera...)”
Yeah, except that the farther back you go, the more overlap you have. Three of your thirty-two great-great-great grandparents might be one and the same person and by the time you count back fourteen generations, those 32,768 slots might be filled by only a few hundred individuals. And some individuals will probably appear in multiple generations of your ancestry. It boggles my poor little mind.
There's no one as Irish as....Muhammed Ali?
There's no one as Irish as....Muhammed Ali?
Heard this on the radio yesterday:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=111937538
Float like The Butterfly, sting like The Honeybee?
# Posted on August 17th 2009 by Michele Sims
Re: There's no one as Irish as....Muhammed Ali?
Whilst on our way to the Bonniconlon show a couple of weeks ago, they played a track on Mid West radio called "How Elvis became a Carlowman" which was on Richie Kavanagh's latest album I think. He was due to play later at the show. It was based on a genealogist's tracing back of Elvis's family to when a William Presley of Carlow emigrated to the US. Firstly it's sung in Richie's quite comedic style, and when a band member complains that that isn't how Elvis would have done it, it's repeated "Rock and Roll" style... I think you had to be there!
# Posted on August 17th 2009 by FiddleFi
Re: There's no one as Irish as....Muhammed Ali?
Queen Victoria's real dad was an Irish soldier, according to quite cogent evidence produced by the historian A.N.Wilson.
They do get around.
# Posted on August 17th 2009 by nicholas
Re: There's no one as Irish as....Muhammed Ali?
It wouldn't be surprising if Mr Ali *did* have Irish blood. The
slaveowners did a good job of distributing their DNA.
# Posted on August 18th 2009 by Hup
Re: There's no one as Irish as....Muhammed Ali?
Seeing as the Grady who left Ennis in the mid-19th c. was pretty impoverished, I don't think there was much slave ownership on his part, at least, Hup.
Mr Ali is due in Ennis on 1st September to receive the Freedom of the Town, so he doesn't appear to have any misgivings.
# Posted on August 18th 2009 by RockyRoader
Re: There's no one as Irish as....Muhammed Ali?
His great grand father actually married an African American free-slave. Forward thinking and brave man he must have been for the times. Fair play....
# Posted on August 18th 2009 by iwerzon
Re: There's no one as Irish as....Muhammed Ali?
It's far more common than 'official' history would lead us to believe.
At the center of this situation was the love affair between an ex-slave, Ceasar, and 'The Newfoundland Irish Beauty' Margaret Kerry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Conspiracy_of_1741
# Posted on August 18th 2009 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: There's no one as Irish as....Muhammed Ali?
Yes! But aren't we all related? We are all out of Africa. And as you trace back the generations the numbers of your relatives literally increase exponentially (2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 great, 16 gg, 32 ggg, 64, 128, 512, 1024 et cetera...), so the reality of you being related to whoever you want is feasible!
I like to think I'm a Black, Jewish, Vietnamese, Bulgarian, Manx , Navajo Londoner and I expect if I did enough research or had DNA scans I could get the evidence to support that.
# Posted on August 18th 2009 by yhaalhouse
Re: There's no one as Irish as....Muhammed Ali?
So 40 generations back, I had 2 to the 40th power ancestors. That's only about 1000 years ago that I had over a trillion ancestors, i.e. about 20 times the current population of the world.
# Posted on August 18th 2009 by GaryAMartin
Re: There's no one as Irish as....Muhammed Ali?
Oops! 200 times the current population. Sorry.
# Posted on August 18th 2009 by GaryAMartin
Re: There's no one as Irish as....Muhammed Ali?
“And as you trace back the generations the numbers of your relatives literally increase exponentially (2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 great, 16 gg, 32 ggg, 64, 128, 512, 1024 et cetera...)”
Yeah, except that the farther back you go, the more overlap you have. Three of your thirty-two great-great-great grandparents might be one and the same person and by the time you count back fourteen generations, those 32,768 slots might be filled by only a few hundred individuals. And some individuals will probably appear in multiple generations of your ancestry. It boggles my poor little mind.
# Posted on August 18th 2009 by Bob himself
Re: There's no one as Irish as....Muhammed Ali?
If this thread had a soundtrack it'd be "The Lakes of Pontchartrain".
# Posted on August 18th 2009 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: There's no one as Irish as....Muhammed Ali?
As we all know from "The Commitments," Elvis was a Cajun.
# Posted on August 18th 2009 by grego
Re: There's no one as Irish as....Muhammed Ali?
Elvis was a testicle? Oh, wait... Let me get my glasses.
# Posted on August 18th 2009 by Bob himself
Re: There's no one as Irish as....Muhammed Ali?
I wonder how far back i'd have to trace before I could stand in the sun for an hour without scalding myself?
# Posted on August 23rd 2009 by tracywag