What is the proper session etiquette pertaining to noodling between tunes while session leader is deciding what pieces will be played next? Is it Ok to play softly between tunes?
I am of the position it is best NOT to play and just wait until the next musician begins to play and a few bars are under way.
Noodling is kind of annoying but it's not a capital crime. Sometimes
people do it a bit to explain how part of a tune is supposed to go.
Sometimes they might play a few bars just to confirm that they got
something right.
In my experience there is normally a session leader, or 2/3 . These people play there regularly, probably get paid to turn up. might be a 'name' player etc. All other players are invited guests.
The session leader, makes sure the session happens, rings around giving other musicians 'the call' .
The session 'leader' might give over this leader ship if a name player comes in say but he/they will generally chose the repertoir and set the tone and pace of the session.
Even huge open sessions will have this structure where a certain person or small group will be accepted as 'the session hosts', and rightfully. If I start a session say a slowish flat session, that is the general tone of the session. Only a rude and arrogant or ignorant musician or bunch of musicians are going to come in and start lots of sets playing fast in Eb!
'the call' .
..hahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaa
..
I bet you have a red phone by your bed.
...
...
"If I start a session say a slowish flat session, that is the general tone of the session. Only a rude and arrogant or ignorant musician or bunch of musicians are going to come in and start lots of sets playing fast in Eb!"
to "host" a flat sesion in this first place is to exclude most Pipers, Flute player whistle players should they perhaps turn up. This practice can be as equally rude and arrogant as the practice you describe..
Im afraid your attitudes would be seen as somewhat precious this side of the pond
Noodling lets others know the tune you would like to start..In a normal "non precious" environment, this will usually be recieved well and is a good way to start tunes with strangers..except that rare breed of precious trad stranger, usually with wee notebooks out infront of them and who avoid looking you straight in the face though smile politely - feel noticably shocked at the set in progress, not in their wee books..Play well initially amongst and you dont even have to noodle. Finding self in such company as mentioned in the first instance I would usually start the choons every 3/4 sets without any feelings of anally retentive scrutiny..
>Noodling is kind of annoying but it's not a capital crime.
Yes it is, in our session, anyway.
We in our session are now equipped with a very efficient cadre of private security guards, who are both former SAS and ITM veterans. They sit in machine gun turrets strategically placed round the session, ready with hair trigger response to instantly gun down anyone who noodles, plays bum notes, plays obscure tunes no-one else knows, talks during a solo performance, or smiles inappropriately.
We now have the perfect session.
It's a shame we had to resort to such strong means to achieve this, but it is worth it.
Most of the sessions I've been in have been as Ionannas describes
with a kind of leadership group steering it. When that group is missing,
the sessions tend to be pretty grim.
That's because the level of playing where I am is not too good and I have
to include myself in that category for the time being.
I guess the ideal is where everybody can play at a high level so anyone
trying to lead would just get in the way of the natural flow. Wow, I'd
love to be around one of those just to listen.
Noodling normally means to play something that isn't the tune while the set is going on, dorking around, trying to find the tune, playing some harmony or something new agey and fancy shmancy, etc. Guaranteed to get you nasty looks at the very least, if you're lucky. At the worst, you get Thistle Day's machine guns.
Playing something in between sets is normally called 'starting a set of tunes' and if you do that in our sessions, we'll listen to hear what you're playing to see if we know it, and play with you.
They sit in machine gun turrets strategically placed round the session, ready with hair trigger response to instantly gun down anyone who noodles, plays bum notes, plays obscure tunes no-one else knows,..
..
How else will anyone get to know new tunes if no one else plays them..Perfect example - Benidict Koehlers composition- stranger at the gate..classed as an obscure tune initially, now I hear it everywhere..One of the best reels I have ever heard when played properly ie Fast
Quote for Barry Foy's book, Field Guild to the Irish music session "...idle plucking , strumming, or tootling is a very unwelcome intrusion." I highly recommend Barry Foy's tongue-in-cheek guide. http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/295
So is there a word differentiation between noodling between sets and during sets?
Some inter-set noodling could be construed as trying to remember a tune before launching into a set. Is this a bit more acceptable than the other sort? Or is the hair trigger pointed at all noodlers regardless?
Noodling is catching large catfish with your bare hands ... oops, sorry. Noodling is flailing around trying to learn tunes by trial and error while everyone else is playing. Capital crime, immediate expulsion.
Faffing is quietly faffing around with your instrument in between sets. Civil offence, it's just bloody annoying.
Noodling between sets: Imagine you're talking in a group and someone starts speaking during the gap in a conversation. You pay attention because you think they're about to start a sentence...then you realise they're just saying random words. You can see how that would get annoying. Sooner or later a serial noodler would get ignored, or shot.
Better noodling betwen sets than during!
Although around here, tunes or snippets played between sets are often seen as an attempt to start the next set. So if you start it, you better know it, because people are going to jump on board, and expect you to go somewhere!
I prefer to think of myself as a session facilitator, not a leader. I neither lead many of the tunes, nor do I try to impose my will. I have been known to give a newbie Bodhran-player a few tips, but we try to welcome and encourage anyone who turns up with an instrument.
>>to "host" a flat sesion in this first place is to exclude most Pipers, Flute player whistle players should they perhaps turn up. This practice can be as equally rude and arrogant as the practice you describe..
Im afraid your attitudes would be seen as somewhat precious this side of the pond<<
Certainly wouldn't exclude any whistlers, they can get a C whistle for very little money. Some pipers would jump at the chance to bring their flat sets out Im sure. But Sessions are all about exclusion as much as inclusion trucks. We exclude reggae rock metal jazz etc etc .
Which side of the pond would that be trucks?
I dunno..infact im sick of playing Concert Pitch all the time..Bring on the C..I wasnt even sure what Key u meant..Bb, Eb, C or even F.. Infact, the less argumentative I feel, the more i am inclined to agree with you. At least wish it was more commonplace or indeed more"the norm" to produce a different keyed instrument and wire out a few tunes..Better than just sitting in the house, rarely getting to play different keyed instruments in public..Still dont like a session thats too regimented though but I guess structure of somesort help..if your good enough one should be able to adapt anyway..aye..Still like the idea of Musicians getting
"the call"
..
And imagining some fiddler sitting beside a big red phone.
..
with the launch codes
When I hear the word 'Noodling' it always reminds me of a guitarist I once played with. When it came his turn to sing a song, he would noodle for a few minutes while he cleared his throat. Then away he went with a song that usually had a five minute guitar intro.... stop...tune a few strings...away again...stop...tune a few more strings,then another clearance of the air ways and off we go again. In the end I used to ask him to give me the nod when he actually started the tune.
A fiddler sitting by a red phone with the launch codes for firing weapons of musical destruction (or distraction) at any fool who dares to "noodle" between tunes at a session.
Correct etiquette is, when frowned on by those who see it as appropriate to frown, is to approach them with your forehead in the lead, say some variant of "Ar yu lowering yer fecking brows at me?".
In the absence of a satisfactory answer, tip the table towards the little fuehrer. This should elicit a more accommodating response.
Tongue out of cheek - come off your high horse.
And of course the correct etiquette response by proper musician to brainless wannabe-musician noodler, after he has tipped the glasses over proper musicians lap, is to ignore his lowering the brows remark.
Then, when the simian retard isn't looking, pick up one of the glasses he has rendered empty by the tipping, ram it into his face, hopefully gouging out an eye, and rotating it so as to gouge out maximum amounts of cheek flesh. As the stupid mutant of a creature falls to the ground in pain and shock, kick it really hard, and if possible stomp on its head. A normally thankless task as numpty skull is a heavy dense impervious mass, but it is fun nonetheless. As you hear the ambulance siren you can sit back to enjoy your pint and a succession of decently played tunes in the knowledge that if you haven't actually rid human society of a walking library of defective genes, you will have at least put it out of action for a while. If any of its acolytes has the temerity to phone the police after your altruistic act, no-one will grass you up, because everyone hates a noodler.
Fact.
It annoys me when people faff (I like that term for it) between sets. I never know if they are going to start a set and will try to wait and see, as it would be quite rude to jump in if someone is starting a set. But they do it so softly you have no idea what exactly they are playing or even if they know what they are playing.
The other reason it annoys me is pure jealousy -- I can't do it. It is physically impossible for me to noodle a tune quietly in order to figure out whether I know it or not. Either I am fully committing to playing something 110% or not playing it at all. It's like skiing off a very steep cornice -- once you're over the edge, you are totally committed. Obviously everyone else should be held to the same standard. No slip sliding down the bunny slope allowed.
got a couple of whistles< do not play them enough >>> mainly mandolin and guitar> uillean pipes though i see what you mean about all or nothing ! yes i fancy a go- am a big fan of the playing of the bothy band< that guy rips tunes out of the instrument - brilliant> any one know a piper in notts uk with a sharing nature and a house in a forty acre field ?
sorry about strange maths symbols< my keyboard is being strange
As an experienced noodler, I have the following advice: ask the people you're playing music with.
As a general rule, the more experienced the core players are, the less they'll appreciate any "between the sets" dithering, especially if you yourself are not a member of the core group.
AH yes, the Refromed Noodleing Movement, founded by John Calvin (the fiddler from Cork, not the french theologian).
They often refer to themselves as Anti-Noodleists. They feel that having discovered the error of their annoying session habits and having successfully changed their wicked ways, that it is now their honor-bound duty to spread their anti-noodling dogma throughout the chune playing world and forever eradicate the foul practice from sessions everywhere!
"They often refer to themselves as Anti-Noodleists. They feel that having discovered the error of their annoying session habits and having successfully changed their wicked ways, that it is now their honor-bound duty to spread their anti-noodling dogma throughout the chune playing world and forever eradicate the foul practice from sessions everywhere!"
Actually, I never really discovered the error of my annoying ways - I simply learned enough tunes that I no longer need to quietly pluck out the bits I didn't catch at the end of a set. When there is a break, I enjoy a chat or a trip to the bar these days.
Noodling etiquette?
Noodling etiquette?
What is the proper session etiquette pertaining to noodling between tunes while session leader is deciding what pieces will be played next? Is it Ok to play softly between tunes?
I am of the position it is best NOT to play and just wait until the next musician begins to play and a few bars are under way.
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by Cape Cod Struggler
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Geezabrek.
Define this "thing" you refer to as session leader.
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by Rudall the time
Re: Noodling etiquette?
Noodling is kind of annoying but it's not a capital crime. Sometimes
people do it a bit to explain how part of a tune is supposed to go.
Sometimes they might play a few bars just to confirm that they got
something right.
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by Hup
Re: Noodling etiquette?
In my experience there is normally a session leader, or 2/3 . These people play there regularly, probably get paid to turn up. might be a 'name' player etc. All other players are invited guests.
The session leader, makes sure the session happens, rings around giving other musicians 'the call' .
The session 'leader' might give over this leader ship if a name player comes in say but he/they will generally chose the repertoir and set the tone and pace of the session.
Even huge open sessions will have this structure where a certain person or small group will be accepted as 'the session hosts', and rightfully. If I start a session say a slowish flat session, that is the general tone of the session. Only a rude and arrogant or ignorant musician or bunch of musicians are going to come in and start lots of sets playing fast in Eb!
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by piobagusfidil
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oh and noodling? What exactly is it? many folk will play the first bars of a few tunes to work out the next set but anything else is frowned upon IME.
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by piobagusfidil
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'the call' .
..hahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaa
..
I bet you have a red phone by your bed.
...
...
"If I start a session say a slowish flat session, that is the general tone of the session. Only a rude and arrogant or ignorant musician or bunch of musicians are going to come in and start lots of sets playing fast in Eb!"
to "host" a flat sesion in this first place is to exclude most Pipers, Flute player whistle players should they perhaps turn up. This practice can be as equally rude and arrogant as the practice you describe..
Im afraid your attitudes would be seen as somewhat precious this side of the pond
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by Miss Mulligan
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its takes a real ego to impose such rules and regulations...Lovely when they are broken
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by Miss Mulligan
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Can we get back to my question - noodling etiquette - please?
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by Cape Cod Struggler
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Noodling lets others know the tune you would like to start..In a normal "non precious" environment, this will usually be recieved well and is a good way to start tunes with strangers..except that rare breed of precious trad stranger, usually with wee notebooks out infront of them and who avoid looking you straight in the face though smile politely - feel noticably shocked at the set in progress, not in their wee books..Play well initially amongst and you dont even have to noodle. Finding self in such company as mentioned in the first instance I would usually start the choons every 3/4 sets without any feelings of anally retentive scrutiny..
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by Miss Mulligan
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>Noodling is kind of annoying but it's not a capital crime.
Yes it is, in our session, anyway.
We in our session are now equipped with a very efficient cadre of private security guards, who are both former SAS and ITM veterans. They sit in machine gun turrets strategically placed round the session, ready with hair trigger response to instantly gun down anyone who noodles, plays bum notes, plays obscure tunes no-one else knows, talks during a solo performance, or smiles inappropriately.
We now have the perfect session.
It's a shame we had to resort to such strong means to achieve this, but it is worth it.
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by Rudall the time
Re: Noodling etiquette?
Most of the sessions I've been in have been as Ionannas describes
with a kind of leadership group steering it. When that group is missing,
the sessions tend to be pretty grim.
That's because the level of playing where I am is not too good and I have
to include myself in that category for the time being.
I guess the ideal is where everybody can play at a high level so anyone
trying to lead would just get in the way of the natural flow. Wow, I'd
love to be around one of those just to listen.
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by Hup
Re: Noodling etiquette?
then get on a plane and come to the Willy Clancy week!!
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by Miss Mulligan
Re: Noodling etiquette?
Noodling normally means to play something that isn't the tune while the set is going on, dorking around, trying to find the tune, playing some harmony or something new agey and fancy shmancy, etc. Guaranteed to get you nasty looks at the very least, if you're lucky. At the worst, you get Thistle Day's machine guns.
Playing something in between sets is normally called 'starting a set of tunes' and if you do that in our sessions, we'll listen to hear what you're playing to see if we know it, and play with you.
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Noodling etiquette?
They sit in machine gun turrets strategically placed round the session, ready with hair trigger response to instantly gun down anyone who noodles, plays bum notes, plays obscure tunes no-one else knows,..
..
How else will anyone get to know new tunes if no one else plays them..Perfect example - Benidict Koehlers composition- stranger at the gate..classed as an obscure tune initially, now I hear it everywhere..One of the best reels I have ever heard when played properly ie Fast
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by Miss Mulligan
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Mary Graces - reel is another one..I cant get enough of this..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mua-yNzYLTY..
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by Miss Mulligan
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Ultimate Noodling material
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by Miss Mulligan
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Quote for Barry Foy's book, Field Guild to the Irish music session "...idle plucking , strumming, or tootling is a very unwelcome intrusion." I highly recommend Barry Foy's tongue-in-cheek guide. http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/295
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by gtag
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So is there a word differentiation between noodling between sets and during sets?
Some inter-set noodling could be construed as trying to remember a tune before launching into a set. Is this a bit more acceptable than the other sort? Or is the hair trigger pointed at all noodlers regardless?
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by Donough
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Let's get the definitions straight:
Noodling is catching large catfish with your bare hands ... oops, sorry. Noodling is flailing around trying to learn tunes by trial and error while everyone else is playing. Capital crime, immediate expulsion.
Faffing is quietly faffing around with your instrument in between sets. Civil offence, it's just bloody annoying.
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by ...
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Noodling between sets: Imagine you're talking in a group and someone starts speaking during the gap in a conversation. You pay attention because you think they're about to start a sentence...then you realise they're just saying random words. You can see how that would get annoying. Sooner or later a serial noodler would get ignored, or shot.
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by Mark Harmer
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"Faffing" - I love that word Llig. Can we make that the official term for now so that we can differentiate from noodling
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by Donough
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Better noodling betwen sets than during!
Although around here, tunes or snippets played between sets are often seen as an attempt to start the next set. So if you start it, you better know it, because people are going to jump on board, and expect you to go somewhere!
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by AlBrown
Re: Noodling etiquette?
I prefer to think of myself as a session facilitator, not a leader. I neither lead many of the tunes, nor do I try to impose my will. I have been known to give a newbie Bodhran-player a few tips, but we try to welcome and encourage anyone who turns up with an instrument.
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by Guernsey Pete
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ha ha ha Pete. I love the way you wrote "but" there, and not "and"
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by ...
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I'm a guitar player and that's not "noodling", that's "rehearsing"
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by Nate Ryan
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If you want to noodle - work in a chinese restaurant.
Don't play bits of tunes if you aren't going to start a set - ask someone to play along with you.
Don't play bits of tunes during a set If you don't know the tune or what key the current tune is in. LISTEN.
Don't sit there playing chords between sets. Learn tunes.
I like the bit about flat sessions and pipers/flautists/whistlers.
Does any tune not in C or G preclude anglo concertina players?
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by geoffwright
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In why the rent but stones and grass if but shivering in the open or closed is why I fell to think it's black, or at least dark.
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by Jmbu
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This is clearly a job for OFSESH
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/21154/comments#comment440446
(apologies to non-UK based members who might be mystified by this)
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by sashiko calico
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>>to "host" a flat sesion in this first place is to exclude most Pipers, Flute player whistle players should they perhaps turn up. This practice can be as equally rude and arrogant as the practice you describe..
Im afraid your attitudes would be seen as somewhat precious this side of the pond<<
Certainly wouldn't exclude any whistlers, they can get a C whistle for very little money. Some pipers would jump at the chance to bring their flat sets out Im sure. But Sessions are all about exclusion as much as inclusion trucks. We exclude reggae rock metal jazz etc etc .
Which side of the pond would that be trucks?
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by piobagusfidil
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I like that Pete. "Greetings, I'll be your session facilitator today..."
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by SWFL Fiddler
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I dunno..infact im sick of playing Concert Pitch all the time..Bring on the C..I wasnt even sure what Key u meant..Bb, Eb, C or even F.. Infact, the less argumentative I feel, the more i am inclined to agree with you. At least wish it was more commonplace or indeed more"the norm" to produce a different keyed instrument and wire out a few tunes..Better than just sitting in the house, rarely getting to play different keyed instruments in public..Still dont like a session thats too regimented though but I guess structure of somesort help..if your good enough one should be able to adapt anyway..aye..Still like the idea of Musicians getting
"the call"
..
And imagining some fiddler sitting beside a big red phone.
..
with the launch codes
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by Miss Mulligan
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Having read previous posts. im convinced whiskey and Trad forum dont mix..waves to Jeremy..
Bye
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by Miss Mulligan
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C, F Bb whatever, anything but bloody D eh?
Thats grand trucks, but no waiting by the phone in case the call doesnt come
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by piobagusfidil
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When I hear the word 'Noodling' it always reminds me of a guitarist I once played with. When it came his turn to sing a song, he would noodle for a few minutes while he cleared his throat. Then away he went with a song that usually had a five minute guitar intro.... stop...tune a few strings...away again...stop...tune a few more strings,then another clearance of the air ways and off we go again. In the end I used to ask him to give me the nod when he actually started the tune.
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by Free Reed
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guys guys...... isn't waiting by the phone a girl thing?
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by sashiko calico
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A fiddler sitting by a red phone with the launch codes for firing weapons of musical destruction (or distraction) at any fool who dares to "noodle" between tunes at a session.
# Posted on May 8th 2009 by fauxcelt
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Correct etiquette is, when frowned on by those who see it as appropriate to frown, is to approach them with your forehead in the lead, say some variant of "Ar yu lowering yer fecking brows at me?".
In the absence of a satisfactory answer, tip the table towards the little fuehrer. This should elicit a more accommodating response.
Tongue out of cheek - come off your high horse.
# Posted on May 9th 2009 by Alex Wilding
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excellent
# Posted on May 9th 2009 by Miss Mulligan
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And of course the correct etiquette response by proper musician to brainless wannabe-musician noodler, after he has tipped the glasses over proper musicians lap, is to ignore his lowering the brows remark.
Then, when the simian retard isn't looking, pick up one of the glasses he has rendered empty by the tipping, ram it into his face, hopefully gouging out an eye, and rotating it so as to gouge out maximum amounts of cheek flesh. As the stupid mutant of a creature falls to the ground in pain and shock, kick it really hard, and if possible stomp on its head. A normally thankless task as numpty skull is a heavy dense impervious mass, but it is fun nonetheless. As you hear the ambulance siren you can sit back to enjoy your pint and a succession of decently played tunes in the knowledge that if you haven't actually rid human society of a walking library of defective genes, you will have at least put it out of action for a while. If any of its acolytes has the temerity to phone the police after your altruistic act, no-one will grass you up, because everyone hates a noodler.
Fact.
# Posted on May 9th 2009 by Rudall the time
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I realise that the above is an attempt at humour, but I'd like to say that I find it very distasteful indeed.
# Posted on May 9th 2009 by DaveL35
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Disgusted!
A very, very sad attempt at humour & of course there is absolutely nothing funny about it!
This forum has reached a new low, with this sort of twisted bile being posted!
We've seen members access suspended for far less recently!
Thistle, why don't you go & find yourself a nice cozy N.F. forum to play on. I'm sure you'll feel much more at home, there!
# Posted on May 9th 2009 by Ptarmigan
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quite right..here here..total disgrace
# Posted on May 9th 2009 by Miss Mulligan
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Danny Boy?
# Posted on May 11th 2009 by lisaniska
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Back in topic...
It annoys me when people faff (I like that term for it) between sets. I never know if they are going to start a set and will try to wait and see, as it would be quite rude to jump in if someone is starting a set. But they do it so softly you have no idea what exactly they are playing or even if they know what they are playing.
The other reason it annoys me is pure jealousy -- I can't do it. It is physically impossible for me to noodle a tune quietly in order to figure out whether I know it or not. Either I am fully committing to playing something 110% or not playing it at all. It's like skiing off a very steep cornice -- once you're over the edge, you are totally committed. Obviously everyone else should be held to the same standard. No slip sliding down the bunny slope allowed.
# Posted on May 11th 2009 by DrSilverSpear
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hey silver, what do you play? i think i want a go on one !
steve
# Posted on May 11th 2009 by selston steve
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Do you really want to enter the dark side , Steve ?
# Posted on May 11th 2009 by bazouki dave
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Uilleann pipes and whistle. You sure you want a go on one?
# Posted on May 11th 2009 by DrSilverSpear
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got a couple of whistles< do not play them enough >>> mainly mandolin and guitar> uillean pipes though i see what you mean about all or nothing ! yes i fancy a go- am a big fan of the playing of the bothy band< that guy rips tunes out of the instrument - brilliant> any one know a piper in notts uk with a sharing nature and a house in a forty acre field ?
sorry about strange maths symbols< my keyboard is being strange
steve
# Posted on May 11th 2009 by selston steve
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Aaah - this brings back memories.
As an experienced noodler, I have the following advice: ask the people you're playing music with.
As a general rule, the more experienced the core players are, the less they'll appreciate any "between the sets" dithering, especially if you yourself are not a member of the core group.
~ a reformed noodler
# Posted on May 12th 2009 by Kerri Brown
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Why did you need to be re-formed, Kerri Brown? Did someone break you up into small pieces?
# Posted on May 12th 2009 by fauxcelt
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AH yes, the Refromed Noodleing Movement, founded by John Calvin (the fiddler from Cork, not the french theologian).
They often refer to themselves as Anti-Noodleists. They feel that having discovered the error of their annoying session habits and having successfully changed their wicked ways, that it is now their honor-bound duty to spread their anti-noodling dogma throughout the chune playing world and forever eradicate the foul practice from sessions everywhere!
# Posted on May 12th 2009 by RogueFiddler
Noodling
For me, this post changed everything;
Re: Traditional Noodling 101
April 27th 2008 by will harmon
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/17549/comments#comment365324
# Posted on May 12th 2009 by Ben Steen
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I tell ya, like a reformed smoker, there's nobody more zealous than a reformed noodler.
Random, that is the ultimate noodle thread!
...and this is the ultimate noodle shirt!
http://www.cafepress.com/ITMGoodies/5331635
# Posted on May 12th 2009 by SWFL Fiddler
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"They often refer to themselves as Anti-Noodleists. They feel that having discovered the error of their annoying session habits and having successfully changed their wicked ways, that it is now their honor-bound duty to spread their anti-noodling dogma throughout the chune playing world and forever eradicate the foul practice from sessions everywhere!"
Actually, I never really discovered the error of my annoying ways - I simply learned enough tunes that I no longer need to quietly pluck out the bits I didn't catch at the end of a set. When there is a break, I enjoy a chat or a trip to the bar these days.
# Posted on May 13th 2009 by Kerri Brown