Is it possible to listen to this stuff in a pub without the partaking of a drop of the other stuff? I personally find this quite difficult, but that is probably not unexpected of one not well-versed in the tradition.
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Seconded. What Joel said. I just got back from the pub. I'm preserved. I'm antiseptic.
That being said, we have a few teetotalers who come and play with us. Nothing odd about it. I'm sure I'm wrong, but I heard that Denis Murphy himself was one. What a pair he and Padraig O'Keefe must have been at the pub: "Here's your tea Mr. Murphy, and Mr. O'Keefe, here's your whiskey. Should I pour you a glass or just leave you the bottle?"
Red what?(just kidding)
I have heard of Red Bull and have no intention of ever trying it.
I usually drink water when I am playing music at a session unless they have one of my favorite beers such as Shiner Bock. Then I normally drink either a glass or two or a bottle or two of Shiner Bock at the session. I don't allow myself to drink more than that to avoid getting arrested by the local police for drunk driving on my way home from the session.
Since the local version of Cregeen's is approximately two-and-a-half miles from our house, I don't have to drive very far to get to and from the local sessions.
Also, since Cregeen's recently started serving Shiner Bock, now I can have something better than water to drink when I go to the local sessions at Cregeen's.
Actually, Ionannas, if I was going to drink that much beer, I would persuade my wife to come to the session with me so she could drive us home. No, my wife doesn't like beer or other alcoholic beverages.
To be fair, I think Fauxcelt plays piano/keyboard. Carrying one of those whilst pished cannot be the wisest of things you can do.
You're not wrong, though. I was in pub a couple months ago (in a pretty posh part of Edinburgh) and was waiting for my mate to come back from smoking outside when this American girl came up to the bar and asked the barman to call a cab for her. He was like, '"Sure, where are you going?" She named a hotel that was a five minute walk -- if you walk REALLY SLOWLY -- from the pub. After deliberating for a few minutes as to whether I should say anything, I observed, "You know, that's like five minutes away." She answered, "I know, but there are drunk people outside. I don't feel safe walking." I pointed out the general poshness of the neighborhood, to which she responded, "I also just came up from Cambridge today and I'm really tired."
Well, you'd think he might contemplate taking the piano in the car, getting pished and leaving the piano in the pub and the car in the car park for the stagger home through the dark, as Ionannas suggests. Then pick the piano up in the morning.
Depends on the pub. Obviously if it's like Bells, I'd not worry at all about leaving an instrument, but I've played at pubs -- especially in the US -- where I would never ever leave an instrument.
I know, I'm only having a laugh, Sure and he should just take up the tin whistle! That way if the weight of the carry out bottle in his pocket causes him to fall and break his instrument its only a few bucks to replace.
Wow, I wish I could walk to the pub. Thankfully I can always weasel a ride from another musician. It'd be nice to walk though, but it's 30-45 minutes by car. Ye olde story the town and the country.
The local version of Cregeen's probably wouldn't object if I accidentally left my keyboard there once. However, if I made a regular habit of leaving the keyboard there overnight after each session, they would probably try to sell it to the highest bidder.
Because Cregeen's is in downtown where there is limited on-street parking (and parking meters), myself and most of the other musicians usually have to use a bank parking lot (or car-park) which is across the street from Cregeen's. Since the bank closes at five p.m., no one (especially the police) objects to us using the bank's parking lot in the evenings. The parking meters are in operation only from eight a.m. to five p.m. on weekdays on the rare occasions when it is possible to find a parking place on the street outside Cregeen's.
In addition, there are some not-so-good neighborhoods between our house and downtown which I don't like walking through even during the day so this all makes driving a better and safer option.
Also, the local police and sheriff's deputies are really getting serious about arresting drunk drivers and putting them in jail until they sober up so trying to drive home after drinking a few beers is not a good idea,
If I got arrested for drunk driving, my monthly car insurance premiums would go up as well.
I have ridden a bicycle while drunk also. Many, many years ago, when I was an enlisted man in the Navy and stationed in Norfolk, Virginia, I used a bicycle for transportation because I couldn't afford a car and the local version of public transit didn't run often enough or late enough. Also, Norfolk is mostly flat with very few hills so it was easy to pedal around town on a bike.
If I wasn't on duty on a weekend, on Friday evening, I would go to one of my favorite bars or restaurants on my bike and lock up the bike securely (two chains and two combination locks) before going into the restaurant or bar. Then I would eat supper and get drunk while listening to a local band perform.
One night I got so drunk that I didn't remember unlocking both locks and carefully wrapping up both chains before walking three blocks from the bar where I laid down to take a nap next to a hedge behind an abandoned building. When I woke up about three or four a.m., the first thing that I saw was this hedge and then I saw the abandoned building. When I finally managed to stand up, I saw my bike parked neatly on the sidewalk on the other side of the street. So I walked across the street, got on my bicycle, and rode back to the Naval Base so I could finish sleeping off my hangover in my own bed in the barracks.
I re-read through the story and realized that I forgot a few details.
The bar/restaurant that particular Friday evening was an establishment called the Recovery Room which was across the street from Norfolk General Hospital. For some reason, they didn't have live music that evening but they did have a jukebox with a good and varied selection of music.
Before I went in, I very carefully locked up my bicycle with the two combination locks and the two chains to a lamppost on the sidewalk outside the Recovery Room. I put one chain through and around the back tire and the other chain through and around the front tire.
Then I went in and ordered a half-liter of their house Rose wine while I picked out some selections on the jukebox and fed some money into the jukebox. After drinking the first half-liter of wine, I decided that I needed another half-liter of wine and some food so I ordered the food and the wine. Then I put some more money into the jukebox.
It was after this that my memory fails me and I don't remember exactly what happened next.
I know that I started on that second half-liter of wine but I don't remember finishing it. I do have a vague memory of eating the food--or, at least, I think I ate something. I also have a vague memory of throwing up in the toilet in the men's room (or "loo")--or, at least, I hope it was the men's room.
After that, everything is still a blank until I woke up the next morning about three blocks from the Recovery Room under that hedge. I do remember that there was a gravel parking lot between me and the abandoned, one-story building which was next to the quiet, residential street where my bicycle was neatly parked on the sidewalk.
I have no memory of unlocking both combination locks and unwrapping the chains from around the lamppost and both tires. Nor do I remember carefully wrapping up both chains and locking both locks on the chains so the chains wouldn't get caught in the rear tire while I was riding the bike.
Temperate temperament?
Temperate temperament?
Is it possible to listen to this stuff in a pub without the partaking of a drop of the other stuff? I personally find this quite difficult, but that is probably not unexpected of one not well-versed in the tradition.
# Posted on May 3rd 2009 by Rick Payman
Re: Temperate temperament?
Drink up. The pubs need your business and the music will sound better!
# Posted on May 4th 2009 by leoj
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Is that a well tempered caveat?
# Posted on May 4th 2009 by McDermott
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Well, when you drink up, the sound seems to be better. Kind of like having a root canal on medications. ( ^ :
# Posted on May 4th 2009 by Micheál
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Seconded. What Joel said. I just got back from the pub. I'm preserved. I'm antiseptic.
That being said, we have a few teetotalers who come and play with us. Nothing odd about it. I'm sure I'm wrong, but I heard that Denis Murphy himself was one. What a pair he and Padraig O'Keefe must have been at the pub: "Here's your tea Mr. Murphy, and Mr. O'Keefe, here's your whiskey. Should I pour you a glass or just leave you the bottle?"
# Posted on May 4th 2009 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Temperate temperament?
Mick Moloney himself is a teetoller these days -doesn't seem to negatively affect his playing!
# Posted on May 4th 2009 by Mac Donn
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I have never spent an evening playing and drinking Red Bull, nor wish to: but has anyone here?
# Posted on May 4th 2009 by nicholas
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Afraid so. Diet coke all night until I get good enough to drive my fiddle "under the influence".
# Posted on May 4th 2009 by sashiko calico
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The more you drink, the better the music sounds. Just don't record it and listen the day afterward. ( ^ :
# Posted on May 4th 2009 by Micheál
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Red what?(just kidding)
I have heard of Red Bull and have no intention of ever trying it.
I usually drink water when I am playing music at a session unless they have one of my favorite beers such as Shiner Bock. Then I normally drink either a glass or two or a bottle or two of Shiner Bock at the session. I don't allow myself to drink more than that to avoid getting arrested by the local police for drunk driving on my way home from the session.
# Posted on May 4th 2009 by fauxcelt
Re: Temperate temperament?
Since the local version of Cregeen's is approximately two-and-a-half miles from our house, I don't have to drive very far to get to and from the local sessions.
Also, since Cregeen's recently started serving Shiner Bock, now I can have something better than water to drink when I go to the local sessions at Cregeen's.
# Posted on May 4th 2009 by fauxcelt
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Thats the spirit Faux, have a great night, get sloshed and stagger home through the dark. Upholding the traditional way!
# Posted on May 4th 2009 by piobagusfidil
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'Brendan Behan used to say that he only took a drink twice a day _ when he was thirsty and when he wasn't.'
Ref: 'Irish Wit' (1968) by Sean McCann. Dublin: The O'Brian Press
# Posted on May 4th 2009 by lisaniska
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Actually, Ionannas, if I was going to drink that much beer, I would persuade my wife to come to the session with me so she could drive us home. No, my wife doesn't like beer or other alcoholic beverages.
# Posted on May 5th 2009 by fauxcelt
Re: Temperate temperament?
So here's to the craythur, the best thing in nature, for sinkin' your sorrow, and raisin' your joy.............
# Posted on May 5th 2009 by AlBrown
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And here I thought u all might be considering the various ideas about temperament of 'tuning' in Irish music! i.e. tempered or untempered.
# Posted on May 5th 2009 by Fipplewit
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Ahh sure you've never lived till you've staggered home half drunk in the dark down the back roads after a great session.
# Posted on May 5th 2009 by piobagusfidil
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My main session is in Glasgow. As I don't fancy staggering from Glasgow to Edinburgh at 2am, I have to stay sober enough to drive.
# Posted on May 5th 2009 by DrSilverSpear
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Blimey ... Yanks eh? .... "the local session is approximately two-and-a-half miles from our house, I don't have to drive very far."
# Posted on May 5th 2009 by llig leahcim
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To be fair, I think Fauxcelt plays piano/keyboard. Carrying one of those whilst pished cannot be the wisest of things you can do.
You're not wrong, though. I was in pub a couple months ago (in a pretty posh part of Edinburgh) and was waiting for my mate to come back from smoking outside when this American girl came up to the bar and asked the barman to call a cab for her. He was like, '"Sure, where are you going?" She named a hotel that was a five minute walk -- if you walk REALLY SLOWLY -- from the pub. After deliberating for a few minutes as to whether I should say anything, I observed, "You know, that's like five minutes away." She answered, "I know, but there are drunk people outside. I don't feel safe walking." I pointed out the general poshness of the neighborhood, to which she responded, "I also just came up from Cambridge today and I'm really tired."
Oy.
# Posted on May 5th 2009 by DrSilverSpear
Re: Temperate temperament?
Well, you'd think he might contemplate taking the piano in the car, getting pished and leaving the piano in the pub and the car in the car park for the stagger home through the dark, as Ionannas suggests. Then pick the piano up in the morning.
# Posted on May 5th 2009 by llig leahcim
Re: Temperate temperament?
Depends on the pub. Obviously if it's like Bells, I'd not worry at all about leaving an instrument, but I've played at pubs -- especially in the US -- where I would never ever leave an instrument.
# Posted on May 5th 2009 by DrSilverSpear
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I know, I'm only having a laugh, Sure and he should just take up the tin whistle! That way if the weight of the carry out bottle in his pocket causes him to fall and break his instrument its only a few bucks to replace.
# Posted on May 5th 2009 by piobagusfidil
Re: Temperate temperament?
Wow, I wish I could walk to the pub. Thankfully I can always weasel a ride from another musician. It'd be nice to walk though, but it's 30-45 minutes by car. Ye olde story the town and the country.
# Posted on May 5th 2009 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Temperate temperament?
The local version of Cregeen's probably wouldn't object if I accidentally left my keyboard there once. However, if I made a regular habit of leaving the keyboard there overnight after each session, they would probably try to sell it to the highest bidder.
Because Cregeen's is in downtown where there is limited on-street parking (and parking meters), myself and most of the other musicians usually have to use a bank parking lot (or car-park) which is across the street from Cregeen's. Since the bank closes at five p.m., no one (especially the police) objects to us using the bank's parking lot in the evenings. The parking meters are in operation only from eight a.m. to five p.m. on weekdays on the rare occasions when it is possible to find a parking place on the street outside Cregeen's.
In addition, there are some not-so-good neighborhoods between our house and downtown which I don't like walking through even during the day so this all makes driving a better and safer option.
# Posted on May 5th 2009 by fauxcelt
Re: Temperate temperament?
Also, the local police and sheriff's deputies are really getting serious about arresting drunk drivers and putting them in jail until they sober up so trying to drive home after drinking a few beers is not a good idea,
If I got arrested for drunk driving, my monthly car insurance premiums would go up as well.
# Posted on May 5th 2009 by fauxcelt
Re: Temperate temperament?
And so they should! drunk driving costs lives. I have to admit cycling home after a few bevies... I could get done for drunk in charge of a bicycle.
# Posted on May 5th 2009 by piobagusfidil
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I have ridden a bicycle while drunk also. Many, many years ago, when I was an enlisted man in the Navy and stationed in Norfolk, Virginia, I used a bicycle for transportation because I couldn't afford a car and the local version of public transit didn't run often enough or late enough. Also, Norfolk is mostly flat with very few hills so it was easy to pedal around town on a bike.
If I wasn't on duty on a weekend, on Friday evening, I would go to one of my favorite bars or restaurants on my bike and lock up the bike securely (two chains and two combination locks) before going into the restaurant or bar. Then I would eat supper and get drunk while listening to a local band perform.
One night I got so drunk that I didn't remember unlocking both locks and carefully wrapping up both chains before walking three blocks from the bar where I laid down to take a nap next to a hedge behind an abandoned building. When I woke up about three or four a.m., the first thing that I saw was this hedge and then I saw the abandoned building. When I finally managed to stand up, I saw my bike parked neatly on the sidewalk on the other side of the street. So I walked across the street, got on my bicycle, and rode back to the Naval Base so I could finish sleeping off my hangover in my own bed in the barracks.
# Posted on May 5th 2009 by fauxcelt
Re: Temperate temperament?
LOL nice story Faux.
# Posted on May 5th 2009 by piobagusfidil
Re: Temperate temperament?
I re-read through the story and realized that I forgot a few details.
The bar/restaurant that particular Friday evening was an establishment called the Recovery Room which was across the street from Norfolk General Hospital. For some reason, they didn't have live music that evening but they did have a jukebox with a good and varied selection of music.
Before I went in, I very carefully locked up my bicycle with the two combination locks and the two chains to a lamppost on the sidewalk outside the Recovery Room. I put one chain through and around the back tire and the other chain through and around the front tire.
Then I went in and ordered a half-liter of their house Rose wine while I picked out some selections on the jukebox and fed some money into the jukebox. After drinking the first half-liter of wine, I decided that I needed another half-liter of wine and some food so I ordered the food and the wine. Then I put some more money into the jukebox.
It was after this that my memory fails me and I don't remember exactly what happened next.
I know that I started on that second half-liter of wine but I don't remember finishing it. I do have a vague memory of eating the food--or, at least, I think I ate something. I also have a vague memory of throwing up in the toilet in the men's room (or "loo")--or, at least, I hope it was the men's room.
After that, everything is still a blank until I woke up the next morning about three blocks from the Recovery Room under that hedge. I do remember that there was a gravel parking lot between me and the abandoned, one-story building which was next to the quiet, residential street where my bicycle was neatly parked on the sidewalk.
I have no memory of unlocking both combination locks and unwrapping the chains from around the lamppost and both tires. Nor do I remember carefully wrapping up both chains and locking both locks on the chains so the chains wouldn't get caught in the rear tire while I was riding the bike.
# Posted on May 6th 2009 by fauxcelt
Re: Temperate temperament?
One of these years, I am planning to go back to Norfolk to re-visit the scene of the crime.
# Posted on May 6th 2009 by fauxcelt