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Has anyone ever heard of a song called "Old Billy Brackets"?
Has anyone ever heard of a song called "Old Billy Brackets"?
A cousin who lives far off said the branch of the family that emmigranted from County Clare brought this song with them. I am searching for it online but have found no hits.
I'm waiting for her to call and sing it to me, meanwhile I thought I'd ask the knowledgable folks here.
Re: Has anyone ever heard of a song called "Old Billy Brackets"?
There's a reel called Old Billy Brocker. I don't know if it has words to it.
Here's the info from the Fiddler's Companion: OLD BILLY BROCKER’S, THE. Irish, Reel. D Major. Standard tuning. AA’B. The title employs the convention of using the descriptor “old” to denote a tune that is similar but different than one with a similar title and melody. Here, “Old Billy Brocker” is different in the second part to “Billy Brocker.” Source for notated version: New Jersey flute player Mike Rafferty, born in Ballinakill, Co. Galway, in 1926 [Harker]. Harker (300 Tunes from Mike Rafferty), 2005; No. 46, pg. 15.
Re: Has anyone ever heard of a song called "Old Billy Brackets"?
She sang it for me, and I have the lyrics. It's title I think is "Mush Mush" and a version of it was in The Quiet Man. I'd love to find out some history on it.
My 70yr old Aunt's lyrics were a little different, but seem to match the lyrics on Mudcat. I suppose it is possible the song did come over with an immigrant in the 1860's.
Subject: IOCA Song Fest 1948 edition by Dick Best
From: John Mehlberg
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 01:57 PM
Having the indexes to the various IOCA Song Fest songbook for easy reference will prove useful. So here is the index to the 1948 edition (perfect bound) trade paperback with red covers and black printing:
Mush Mush Mush Touraliady................. 90
also saw where Billy Brackett's is a.k.a. *Dick Croly's*
Re: Has anyone ever heard of a song called "Old Billy Brackets"?
Well done Random_notes
I see that D Major 'Bracket's' reel is of good calibre listed here on 70-odd albums including the likes of Coleman, Burke and The Bothy
A friend of our band comes up and sings this 'Mush Mush' song whenever he's over, and had a few jars, but i couldn't find it in my limited collection which i thought i'd list for those interested in some older sources of British and American folk songs, starting with a Hymnal for good measure :
* Hymns Ancient and Modern (1924 / original 1861) Standard Edition, London : William Clowes
* John Cox (1969 republish of 1925) 'Folk-Songs of the South' (collected under the auspices of The West Virginia Folk-Lore Society) New York : Dover
* Frank Shay (1961 republish of 1927 & 1928) 'Barroom Ballads' New York : Dover
* Colm O'Lochlainn (1984 republish of 1939 & 1965) 'The Complete Irish Street Ballads' London : Pan
* Burl Ives (1953) 'The Burl Ives Song Book' New York : Ballantine
* Burl Ives (1966) 'More Burl Ives Songs' New York : Ballentine
* Leslie Woodgate (1956) 'The Puffin Song Book' Harmondsworth : Penguin
* Walton Songs [songbooks] . . . (1966) Book 1, 4, 5 & 6. Dublin : Walton's
* Maud Karpeles (1973) 'An Introduction to English Folk Song' London : OUP
* Sam Richards & Tish Stubbs (1979) 'The English Folksinger' London : Collins
* Roy Palmer (1986 original 1979) 'English Country Songbook' London : Omnibus
* Futura (1979) 'The Official Book of Bawdy Ballads' London : Futura
* The Hackney and Islington Workshop (1981) 'Hold The Line Again' Songbook 3 London
* Soodlum (1982) 'Soodlum's Irish Ballad Book' London : Oak
* Frank Connolly & Christy Moore (1984) 'The Christy Moore Songbook' Cooleen : Brandon
* '100 Best Irish Songs and ballads' Dublin : Mac
Re: Has anyone ever heard of a song called "Old Billy Brackets"?
Okay then, 'older' than the last 25 years
around which time Leslie Halliwell writing in his bible 'Film Guide' described that 1952 Ford film 'The Quite Man' as having ' . . . a gay swing to it, much brawling vigour and broad comedy, while the actors all give their roistering best.'
with a young Wayne and O'Hara in i'll be seeking it out again
Re: Has anyone ever heard of a song called "Old Billy Brackets"?
I remember a group of us young lads singing 'Mush Mush Mush Tooraliadi' in a Scout Concert - Circa 1944. Incidentaly Jimmy Shand recorded a waltz called 'The Yodeling Waltz' The first part of the tune is the same as Mush Mush etc.
Has anyone ever heard of a song called "Old Billy Brackets"?
Has anyone ever heard of a song called "Old Billy Brackets"?
A cousin who lives far off said the branch of the family that emmigranted from County Clare brought this song with them. I am searching for it online but have found no hits.
I'm waiting for her to call and sing it to me, meanwhile I thought I'd ask the knowledgable folks here.
Thanks for any help!
Tracy
# Posted on April 12th 2009 by tracywag
Re: Has anyone ever heard of a song called "Old Billy Brackets"?
There's a reel called Old Billy Brocker. I don't know if it has words to it.
Here's the info from the Fiddler's Companion: OLD BILLY BROCKER’S, THE. Irish, Reel. D Major. Standard tuning. AA’B. The title employs the convention of using the descriptor “old” to denote a tune that is similar but different than one with a similar title and melody. Here, “Old Billy Brocker” is different in the second part to “Billy Brocker.” Source for notated version: New Jersey flute player Mike Rafferty, born in Ballinakill, Co. Galway, in 1926 [Harker]. Harker (300 Tunes from Mike Rafferty), 2005; No. 46, pg. 15.
# Posted on April 12th 2009 by Will Harmon
Re: Has anyone ever heard of a song called "Old Billy Brackets"?
I'll try that while I'm waiting. Thanks.
# Posted on April 12th 2009 by tracywag
Re: Has anyone ever heard of a song called "Old Billy Brackets"?
She sang it for me, and I have the lyrics. It's title I think is "Mush Mush" and a version of it was in The Quiet Man. I'd love to find out some history on it.
This is the movie version on youuibe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9C9ckld7OI
My 70yr old Aunt's lyrics were a little different, but seem to match the lyrics on Mudcat. I suppose it is possible the song did come over with an immigrant in the 1860's.
# Posted on April 12th 2009 by tracywag
Re: Has anyone ever heard of a song called "Old Billy Brackets"?
And here's the typical gentle citizenry of Ireland singing it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIi8A_8RopA&feature=related
Hooray for Hollywood!
# Posted on April 12th 2009 by grego
Re: Has anyone ever heard of a song called "Old Billy Brackets"?
Traced it back to a songbook in the '40's
http://www.ioca.org/songfest/
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=28844
Subject: IOCA Song Fest 1948 edition by Dick Best
From: John Mehlberg
Date: 31 Jul 06 - 01:57 PM
Having the indexes to the various IOCA Song Fest songbook for easy reference will prove useful. So here is the index to the 1948 edition (perfect bound) trade paperback with red covers and black printing:
Mush Mush Mush Touraliady................. 90
also saw where Billy Brackett's is a.k.a. *Dick Croly's*
# Posted on April 12th 2009 by Ben Steen
Mush Mush
It's in Carmina Princetonia. The University Song Book. Eighth Edition. Supplementary. Newark NJ, Martin R. Dennis & Co. 1894, as well.
# Posted on April 13th 2009 by tracywag
Re: Has anyone ever heard of a song called "Old Billy Brackets"?
Well done Random_notes
I see that D Major 'Bracket's' reel is of good calibre listed here on 70-odd albums including the likes of Coleman, Burke and The Bothy
A friend of our band comes up and sings this 'Mush Mush' song whenever he's over, and had a few jars, but i couldn't find it in my limited collection which i thought i'd list for those interested in some older sources of British and American folk songs, starting with a Hymnal for good measure :
* Hymns Ancient and Modern (1924 / original 1861) Standard Edition, London : William Clowes
* John Cox (1969 republish of 1925) 'Folk-Songs of the South' (collected under the auspices of The West Virginia Folk-Lore Society) New York : Dover
* Frank Shay (1961 republish of 1927 & 1928) 'Barroom Ballads' New York : Dover
* Colm O'Lochlainn (1984 republish of 1939 & 1965) 'The Complete Irish Street Ballads' London : Pan
* Burl Ives (1953) 'The Burl Ives Song Book' New York : Ballantine
* Burl Ives (1966) 'More Burl Ives Songs' New York : Ballentine
* Leslie Woodgate (1956) 'The Puffin Song Book' Harmondsworth : Penguin
* Walton Songs [songbooks] . . . (1966) Book 1, 4, 5 & 6. Dublin : Walton's
* Maud Karpeles (1973) 'An Introduction to English Folk Song' London : OUP
* Sam Richards & Tish Stubbs (1979) 'The English Folksinger' London : Collins
* Roy Palmer (1986 original 1979) 'English Country Songbook' London : Omnibus
* Futura (1979) 'The Official Book of Bawdy Ballads' London : Futura
* The Hackney and Islington Workshop (1981) 'Hold The Line Again' Songbook 3 London
* Soodlum (1982) 'Soodlum's Irish Ballad Book' London : Oak
* Frank Connolly & Christy Moore (1984) 'The Christy Moore Songbook' Cooleen : Brandon
* '100 Best Irish Songs and ballads' Dublin : Mac
# Posted on April 13th 2009 by lisaniska
Re: Has anyone ever heard of a song called "Old Billy Brackets"?
Okay then, 'older' than the last 25 years
around which time Leslie Halliwell writing in his bible 'Film Guide' described that 1952 Ford film 'The Quite Man' as having ' . . . a gay swing to it, much brawling vigour and broad comedy, while the actors all give their roistering best.'
with a young Wayne and O'Hara in i'll be seeking it out again
# Posted on April 13th 2009 by lisaniska
Re: Has anyone ever heard of a song called "Old Billy Brackets"?
I remember a group of us young lads singing 'Mush Mush Mush Tooraliadi' in a Scout Concert - Circa 1944. Incidentaly Jimmy Shand recorded a waltz called 'The Yodeling Waltz' The first part of the tune is the same as Mush Mush etc.
# Posted on April 13th 2009 by Free Reed