And someone else, sorry I cannot remember whom to attribute, pointed out that jigs go "jiggety-jiggety."
Sounds simple enough, but it is also quite helpful to a newbie like me.
I know others have posted similar reference phrases before, but I cannot remember them. I am new to ITM and am looking for whatever good reminders and shortcuts I can find to learning this stuff.
What are some others? I have heard plenty of jigs and reels and waltzes, but not so many hopjigs or skipjigs or hornpipes or strathspeys or polkas or...or...or...whatever else there is to know about.
It would be great to collect them here for reference. Anyone have good ones to share?
Re: Mnemonic devices for how different types of tunes "feel"
its been said before and ill say it again, the only way to get "the feel" for this music is by listening to it. Go out and buy a cd, any cd, put on a track of jigs and listen. Internalize the rhythm. There are no shortcuts in this music or in any music. It has to be drilled into you so much that the decision as to whether a tune is a hornpipe, slide, jig, reel or whatever is almost unconscious. Granted this takes a while but trying to remember something some phrase that nails down a rhythm is, in my opinion, only going to put a block between you and the music. If youre going to use anything at all at least use a tune that u can lilt in your head to see if the rhythm matches. At least that way youre reinforcing the actual rhythms rather than trying to remember a phrase that represents them.
Re: Mnemonic devices for how different types of tunes "feel"
wow.. that looks awful angry. Im not angry. just tired.. and when im tired i have the structuring ability of a swarm of bees... im sure somebody else will hit the nail on the hit a lot more succinctly than i have...
Re: Mnemonic devices for how different types of tunes "feel"
I don't think I could hit the nail on the head any more succinctly than you have, it's a good response. But to sum it up, mnemonic devices for how different types of tunes sound is ultimately counter productive. Because the very essence of the music is appreciating the character of each individual tune.
Mnemonic devices for how different types of tunes "feel"
Mnemonic devices for how different types of tunes "feel"
In a recent discussion, SWFL Fiddler linked to a really good one for slides:
'blah dithery dump a doodle scattery idle fortunoodle'
(Ciaran Carson, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciar%C3%A1n_Carson#Critical_Perspective)
I found this very helpful.
And someone else, sorry I cannot remember whom to attribute, pointed out that jigs go "jiggety-jiggety."
Sounds simple enough, but it is also quite helpful to a newbie like me.
I know others have posted similar reference phrases before, but I cannot remember them. I am new to ITM and am looking for whatever good reminders and shortcuts I can find to learning this stuff.
What are some others? I have heard plenty of jigs and reels and waltzes, but not so many hopjigs or skipjigs or hornpipes or strathspeys or polkas or...or...or...whatever else there is to know about.
It would be great to collect them here for reference. Anyone have good ones to share?
# Posted on March 22nd 2009 by worthy
Re: Mnemonic devices for how different types of tunes "feel"
reels- watermelon watermelon watermelon watermelon
jigs- pineapple apricot pineapple apricot
# Posted on March 22nd 2009 by shanty
Re: Mnemonic devices for how different types of tunes "feel"
its been said before and ill say it again, the only way to get "the feel" for this music is by listening to it. Go out and buy a cd, any cd, put on a track of jigs and listen. Internalize the rhythm. There are no shortcuts in this music or in any music. It has to be drilled into you so much that the decision as to whether a tune is a hornpipe, slide, jig, reel or whatever is almost unconscious. Granted this takes a while but trying to remember something some phrase that nails down a rhythm is, in my opinion, only going to put a block between you and the music. If youre going to use anything at all at least use a tune that u can lilt in your head to see if the rhythm matches. At least that way youre reinforcing the actual rhythms rather than trying to remember a phrase that represents them.
# Posted on March 22nd 2009 by galway-fiddle
Re: Mnemonic devices for how different types of tunes "feel"
wow.. that looks awful angry. Im not angry. just tired.. and when im tired i have the structuring ability of a swarm of bees... im sure somebody else will hit the nail on the hit a lot more succinctly than i have...
# Posted on March 22nd 2009 by galway-fiddle
Re: Mnemonic devices for how different types of tunes "feel"
I don't think I could hit the nail on the head any more succinctly than you have, it's a good response. But to sum it up, mnemonic devices for how different types of tunes sound is ultimately counter productive. Because the very essence of the music is appreciating the character of each individual tune.
# Posted on March 22nd 2009 by ...
Re: Mnemonic devices for how different types of tunes "feel"
reels - cappucino cappucino cappucino tea
jigs - liverpool everton, liverpool everton
(liverpool football teams, in case you're not based in UK!)
# Posted on March 22nd 2009 by sashiko calico
Re: Mnemonic devices for how different types of tunes "feel"
Personally I have always had more trouble remembering the mnemonic for things than the actual thing itself. Just confuses me.
# Posted on March 23rd 2009 by Donough
Re: Mnemonic devices for how different types of tunes "feel"
This is a rhythm that the Irish call a reel,this is a rhythm that the Irish call a reel
jigs naming the enemy,naming the enemy
# Posted on March 23rd 2009 by dafydd
Re: Mnemonic devices for how different types of tunes "feel"
jigs is something like:
nehhhh -Monickne-monickne-Monickne-monickne...
# Posted on March 23rd 2009 by Mike Floorstand
Re: Mnemonic devices for how different types of tunes "feel"
whatever happened to 'rashers and sausages'?
everyone is going low carb/low fat
# Posted on March 23rd 2009 by zippydw
Re: Mnemonic devices for how different types of tunes "feel"
Some previous discussions:
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display.php/3040
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/9012
# Posted on March 23rd 2009 by Reverend
Re: Mnemonic devices for how different types of tunes "feel"
Florida reel style: alligator alligator alligator alligator
Glad you liked Carson's slide trick, amyamanda. It helps people realize they shouldn't jig up the slides.
# Posted on March 23rd 2009 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Mnemonic devices for how different types of tunes "feel"
'edible elephant' for double jigs
'humpty dumpty' for single jigs
and a variation on SWFL's, 'animated alligator' for reels
# Posted on March 24th 2009 by AlBrown