Can anyone tell me the name of the third tune on the set beginning with the "Belles of Tipperary" on the Ceili Bandits'
"Hangin at the Crossroads" CD. I do believe the second tune is called the Plough and the Stars. Correct me if I'm wrong. The third tune is in A from memory. I would love to know. Slim.
If nobody knows, you can always email or text Eoin O'Neil ahead of the Coisle an Cheoil trad program on ClareFM on Monday night and put in a request to play the track Belles of Tipperary off his CD. Eoin always announces exactly who is playing what instruments and what the names of the tracks are. A bit extreme, but you couldn't go wrong.
(Eoin is standing in at the moment for Joan Hanrahan who usually hosts the show.) Excellent music on there and it is archived for a week to download later. Thank goodness for internet radio.
The tune Kenny gives is quite different and as far as I know it from his posts he otherwise rarely makes a mistake - if any - in this respect. That's why I said it the way I did.
It's ok, Henk, I was just kidding. Why don't you just ask Eoin? He will tell you, I bet, unless it is a similar situation to the various names of the one that Kenny pointed out, and they might have just left out the name for that reason so as not to confuse people...or they just ran out of space on the CD sleeve or something, maybe.
Go on, I dare you to ask him.
Hey, that's up to your fellow countryman Steve (chuneboi slim). After all he started the argument in the first place.
This reminds me of the Monty Python sketch:
Is the right room for an argument?
I've told you once.
No, you didn't.
Yes, I did.
When?
Just now.
No, you didn't.
Yes, I did.
No, you didn't.
Excuse me. Is the five minute argument or the half hour?
Oh, just the five minute.
Thank you. Anyway, I did tell you.
No, you most certainly did not.
Let's get one thing straight: I most definitely told you.
No, you didn't.
Yes, I did.
No, you didn't.
Yes, I did.
No, you didn't.
Yes, I did.
This isn't an argument!
Yes, it is.
No, it isn't. It's just contradiction.
No, it isn't.
Yes, it is. You just contradicted me.
No, I didn't.
Yes, you did.
No, no, no.
You did just then.
That's ludicrous.
Oh, this is futile.
No, it isn't.
I came in here for a good argument.
No, you didn't. You came in here for an argument.
Well, argument isn't the same as contradiction.
Can be.
No, it can't.
An argument is a collective series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
No, it isn't.
Yes, it is. It isn't just contradiction.
Look, if I argue with you. I must take a contrary position.
But it isn't just saying No, it isn't.
Yes, it is.
No, it isn't. Argument's an intellectual protest,
Contradiction just the automatic opposite of any statement the other person makes.
No, it isn't.
Yes, it is.
Not at all.
Now, look-- (Bell dings)
Good morning.
What?
That's it. Good morning.
I was just getting interested.
I'm sorry, the five minutes is up.
That was not five minutes.
I'm afraid it was.
Oh, no, it wasn't. (Argument professional looks around the room)
I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to argue anymore.
What?
If you want to go on arguing you'll have to pay for another five minutes.
But that was not five minutes, just now. (Professional whistles) Oh, come on.
If you want to continue arguing, you must pay for another five minutes.
Oh, fine. Here.
Thank you.
Well?
Well what?
That was not five minutes, just then.
I told you, you have to pay.
I just paid.
No, you didn't.
Yes, I did.
No, you didn't.
I don't want to argue about that.
Well, you didn't pay.
Ah, but if I didn't pay, why are you arguing? Aha! Got you.
No, you haven't.
Yes, I have. If you're arguing, I must have paid.
Not necessarily. I could be arguing in my spare time.
Oh, I've had enough of this.
No, you haven't.
Oh, shut up!
You're quite right, Henk. I was just going by what "johnkerr" had said in the linked discussion. It's not like him to make a mistake, so that's surprising. I just noticed "chuneboi slim" says above that he thinks it's in "A", which rules out "Dicky Sherlock's" [as I call it ] unless they've deliberately changed the key.
Maybe "slim" or someone could post the tune as an "abc" Gan Ainm, and we could figure it out from there? Or post us the first 4 bars here, and we can look at that, but not having the recording, there's not much else I can do to help.
I intend to contact Eoin at your suggestion fellas but I do fear
, (taking into account that the tune title is absent from the CD as pointed out by Bren) , that the tune has remained nameless
for a far more potent reason , ie that it may be the type of tune
that may trigger a series of unspeakable events by the mere whispering of its title. Call me paranoid, but I've been suspicious of this anonymous tune ever since I've discovered it.
I'll keep you posted. Cheers fellas. Slim.
Hey, well done Bren . Thanks. My torture is over. As suggested by DD did in fact email Eoin and ask him to play it on his show on Sunday in the hope that he may reveal the title as well. I've loved that set of tunes for a while now. I have been working on that particular tune for about of week now and I should have it up to speed in the next decade sometime. Kevin Griffin is the greatest banjo player this side of Alpha Centauri as far as I'm concerned. I am surprised that its not an Irish tune . Cheers , Slim.
I'd have noticed earlier as CBFWtS is one of my favourites but I've been so fascinated with KG's playing on BoT that I haven't been past that tune for a while. He's pretty free with the Shetland tune which also resembles some others but I'm sure that's it.
Now if I learn P&S I'll have the whole set.
Doncha just hate it when people play sets off records at sessions?
But doncha just love it when that means you can join in the whole set even though you've never met before?
Guilty pleasure.
No wonder punters ask how long "the band" has been together.
Bren, it's the tune for sure as I've checked the dots on this site
(heaven forbid) and its the one. A lot to be said for the "anti dot "argument here as if I had looked at the dots only It wouldn't have grabbed me like it has. The dots are quite simplified really. I've got the first two tunes now and I'm working on CBFWtS, although i am still developing the ornamentation on all 3. I wouldn't worry about doing all three at
a sesion because I'm amazed at how many people in my town have never heard of the Ceili Bandits, or how many are unfamiliar with all 3 tunes.
Name of Tune
Name of Tune
Can anyone tell me the name of the third tune on the set beginning with the "Belles of Tipperary" on the Ceili Bandits'
"Hangin at the Crossroads" CD. I do believe the second tune is called the Plough and the Stars. Correct me if I'm wrong. The third tune is in A from memory. I would love to know. Slim.
# Posted on January 8th 2009 by chuneboi slim
Re: Name of Tune
The 2nd sure is The Plough and the Stars. Can't help you with the 3rd.
# Posted on January 8th 2009 by Henk Bos
Re: Name of Tune
You're not alone Chuneboi - have you read this already:
http://www.thesession.org/recordings/display/1205
??
# Posted on January 8th 2009 by Bren
Re: Name of Tune
If nobody knows, you can always email or text Eoin O'Neil ahead of the Coisle an Cheoil trad program on ClareFM on Monday night and put in a request to play the track Belles of Tipperary off his CD. Eoin always announces exactly who is playing what instruments and what the names of the tracks are. A bit extreme, but you couldn't go wrong.
(Eoin is standing in at the moment for Joan Hanrahan who usually hosts the show.) Excellent music on there and it is archived for a week to download later. Thank goodness for internet radio.
http://www.clarefm.ie/shows.php?section=coisle%20an%20cheoil&subsection=Joan+Hanrahan
# Posted on January 8th 2009 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh
Re: Name of Tune
'Eoin always announces exactly ...... what the names of the tracks are'.
The name of the *track* is on the cd. Belles of Tipperary. Full stop.
Why would he announce the *tunes*, if he didn't even bother to do so when making this cd...........
# Posted on January 8th 2009 by Henk Bos
Re: Name of Tune
"Why would he announce the *tunes*, if he didn't even bother to do so when making this cd........... "
Because he's a nice guy.
Don't get all uppity with us, mate. We're Australians. You can give it a try though, you will probably learn quite a deal.
Full stop.
# Posted on January 8th 2009 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh
Re: Name of Tune
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/1139
This it ? - see discussion.
# Posted on January 8th 2009 by Kenny
Re: Name of Tune
No, Kenny. I listened to the recording this morning. Guess you had to do your work without having access to it.
# Posted on January 8th 2009 by Henk Bos
Re: Name of Tune
Do you know, Henk, and just not saying?
# Posted on January 8th 2009 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh
Re: Name of Tune
The tune Kenny gives is quite different and as far as I know it from his posts he otherwise rarely makes a mistake - if any - in this respect. That's why I said it the way I did.
# Posted on January 8th 2009 by Henk Bos
Re: Name of Tune
It's ok, Henk, I was just kidding. Why don't you just ask Eoin? He will tell you, I bet, unless it is a similar situation to the various names of the one that Kenny pointed out, and they might have just left out the name for that reason so as not to confuse people...or they just ran out of space on the CD sleeve or something, maybe.
Go on, I dare you to ask him.
# Posted on January 8th 2009 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh
Re: Name of Tune
Hey, that's up to your fellow countryman Steve (chuneboi slim). After all he started the argument in the first place.
This reminds me of the Monty Python sketch:
Is the right room for an argument?
I've told you once.
No, you didn't.
Yes, I did.
When?
Just now.
No, you didn't.
Yes, I did.
No, you didn't.
Excuse me. Is the five minute argument or the half hour?
Oh, just the five minute.
Thank you. Anyway, I did tell you.
No, you most certainly did not.
Let's get one thing straight: I most definitely told you.
No, you didn't.
Yes, I did.
No, you didn't.
Yes, I did.
No, you didn't.
Yes, I did.
This isn't an argument!
Yes, it is.
No, it isn't. It's just contradiction.
No, it isn't.
Yes, it is. You just contradicted me.
No, I didn't.
Yes, you did.
No, no, no.
You did just then.
That's ludicrous.
Oh, this is futile.
No, it isn't.
I came in here for a good argument.
No, you didn't. You came in here for an argument.
Well, argument isn't the same as contradiction.
Can be.
No, it can't.
An argument is a collective series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
No, it isn't.
Yes, it is. It isn't just contradiction.
Look, if I argue with you. I must take a contrary position.
But it isn't just saying No, it isn't.
Yes, it is.
No, it isn't. Argument's an intellectual protest,
Contradiction just the automatic opposite of any statement the other person makes.
No, it isn't.
Yes, it is.
Not at all.
Now, look-- (Bell dings)
Good morning.
What?
That's it. Good morning.
I was just getting interested.
I'm sorry, the five minutes is up.
That was not five minutes.
I'm afraid it was.
Oh, no, it wasn't. (Argument professional looks around the room)
I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to argue anymore.
What?
If you want to go on arguing you'll have to pay for another five minutes.
But that was not five minutes, just now. (Professional whistles) Oh, come on.
If you want to continue arguing, you must pay for another five minutes.
Oh, fine. Here.
Thank you.
Well?
Well what?
That was not five minutes, just then.
I told you, you have to pay.
I just paid.
No, you didn't.
Yes, I did.
No, you didn't.
I don't want to argue about that.
Well, you didn't pay.
Ah, but if I didn't pay, why are you arguing? Aha! Got you.
No, you haven't.
Yes, I have. If you're arguing, I must have paid.
Not necessarily. I could be arguing in my spare time.
Oh, I've had enough of this.
No, you haven't.
Oh, shut up!
# Posted on January 8th 2009 by Henk Bos
Re: Name of Tune
You're quite right, Henk. I was just going by what "johnkerr" had said in the linked discussion. It's not like him to make a mistake, so that's surprising. I just noticed "chuneboi slim" says above that he thinks it's in "A", which rules out "Dicky Sherlock's" [as I call it ] unless they've deliberately changed the key.
Maybe "slim" or someone could post the tune as an "abc" Gan Ainm, and we could figure it out from there? Or post us the first 4 bars here, and we can look at that, but not having the recording, there's not much else I can do to help.
# Posted on January 8th 2009 by Kenny
Re: Name of Tune
LOL. Very creative. No, I didn't start it. (Take it away!!)
A laugh a minute, Henk.
# Posted on January 8th 2009 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh
Re: Name of Tune
Go on, Henk, ask Eoin...you're just scared that he won't tell you, aren't you.
# Posted on January 8th 2009 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh
Re: Name of Tune
Ha. Do you have his e-mail adress?
# Posted on January 8th 2009 by Henk Bos
Re: Name of Tune
I intend to contact Eoin at your suggestion fellas but I do fear
, (taking into account that the tune title is absent from the CD as pointed out by Bren) , that the tune has remained nameless
for a far more potent reason , ie that it may be the type of tune
that may trigger a series of unspeakable events by the mere whispering of its title. Call me paranoid, but I've been suspicious of this anonymous tune ever since I've discovered it.
I'll keep you posted. Cheers fellas. Slim.
# Posted on January 9th 2009 by chuneboi slim
Re: Name of Tune
Hey, just listened to it and it's the Cape Breton Fiddlers Welcome to Shetland.
# Posted on January 10th 2009 by Bren
Re: Name of Tune
Hey, well done Bren . Thanks. My torture is over. As suggested by DD did in fact email Eoin and ask him to play it on his show on Sunday in the hope that he may reveal the title as well. I've loved that set of tunes for a while now. I have been working on that particular tune for about of week now and I should have it up to speed in the next decade sometime. Kevin Griffin is the greatest banjo player this side of Alpha Centauri as far as I'm concerned. I am surprised that its not an Irish tune . Cheers , Slim.
# Posted on January 10th 2009 by chuneboi slim
Re: Name of Tune
Tune is in the comments section of the Recordings section with link to Bren's comment.
# Posted on January 10th 2009 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh
Re: Name of Tune
I'd have noticed earlier as CBFWtS is one of my favourites but I've been so fascinated with KG's playing on BoT that I haven't been past that tune for a while. He's pretty free with the Shetland tune which also resembles some others but I'm sure that's it.
Now if I learn P&S I'll have the whole set.
Doncha just hate it when people play sets off records at sessions?
But doncha just love it when that means you can join in the whole set even though you've never met before?
Guilty pleasure.
No wonder punters ask how long "the band" has been together.
# Posted on January 11th 2009 by Bren
Re: Name of Tune
Bren, it's the tune for sure as I've checked the dots on this site
(heaven forbid) and its the one. A lot to be said for the "anti dot "argument here as if I had looked at the dots only It wouldn't have grabbed me like it has. The dots are quite simplified really. I've got the first two tunes now and I'm working on CBFWtS, although i am still developing the ornamentation on all 3. I wouldn't worry about doing all three at
a sesion because I'm amazed at how many people in my town have never heard of the Ceili Bandits, or how many are unfamiliar with all 3 tunes.
# Posted on January 11th 2009 by chuneboi slim
Re: Name of Tune
Slim,
Battlefield band did a great version of that tune at some point - I'll go through my CDs tonight and see if I can find it.
Great to share some tunes with you at Woodford, by the way.
Eno
# Posted on January 12th 2009 by bc_box_player
Re: Name of Tune
Eno. Ditto.
# Posted on January 12th 2009 by chuneboi slim
Re: Name of Tune
My bad, mate. It was the Tannahil Weavers - it's the first track off their (excellent) "Dancing Feet" album.
# Posted on January 12th 2009 by bc_box_player