The Roman Catholic Church have changed the date of St Patrick's Day this year.
The 17th of March coincides with the Second Day of Holy Week and that is a more important event in the church's calendar than any Saint's day, so it has been officially moved to Saturday the 15th of March.
The last time it happened was in 1940 when St Patrick's landed on Palm Sunday and it won't happen again until the year 2160.
...but I think the "important" part of the it (i.e. the day off work) stays on the 17th? It's just the religious part that they shift around from time to time I think?
Actually the same happened last year as well (google it if you like). it was done 'officially' but I didn't have the impression many parades etc were held on another day.
This post is a year out of date. St Pat's day was in Holy Week in 2008 and there was some change to the religious side of things I seem to remember. But this year Holy Week (the week before Easter) begins on 6 April. By which time even the fiercest St Patrick's hangovers will have abated.
Oops!
Thanks for that Lissagriffin.
And whilst randomly surfing and collecting pointless nuggets of trivia in future i'll check my facts before posting!
Embarrassment!
The British government are always changing the date of May Day. Well, they don't actually call it May Day - they call it the "May Day Bank Holiday". The last time that this bank holiday was on the real "May Day" was in 2006. And it won't happen again until 2017.
Some years ago, when the "May Day" holiday was first announced, the English morris men were intially quite excited about it - May Day being their number one dance day of the year. As this day had never previously been a holiday, they always had to get up very early in ther morning to carry out their dance ritual - then make a quick change of clothing and do a day's work.
But their hopes were dashed. The bureaucrats decided that the new holiday would always be on the first Monday in May, so most years those morris men still have to go to work as well as dance ...
Why would somebody want to celebrate the murder of Julius Caesar?
And, furthermore, how important do you have to be to be "assassinated" instead of "murdered"?
Neither St. Patrick's Day nor the Ides Of March (the fifteenth) are Official Holidays at the hospital where I work.
But where, even vaguely, is that hospital, fauxcelt ?
You are another of the posters without even a CLUE as to the general area you live in. Come on, give us some detail, embroider to amuse by all means, but give us some grit, rather than simply that you were moved by some musician in the '80's and have never looked back......
The Celts might celebrate the murder of Caesar because he killed rather a lot of them. Or enslaved them. Or cut off their right hands, so they couldn't fight but could continue their existence doing useful jobs for the Romans - though I can't really think what.
Easter sunday is the first sunday after the first full moon after April 4th, that is, the first 14 days period between new moon and full moon which is wholy within the spring season.
I learned this just a few years ago, despite coming from a country at least as catholic as Ireland.
That hospital is the Central Arkansas Veteran's Hospital in the Big Pebble (or, Little Rock, the state capitol). Since I am an employee of the federal government, our Official Holidays are determined and decided on by the infinite wisdom of the U.S. Congress.
I do look back occasionally in order to try to figure how far I have come and how far I still have to go.
"Easter sunday is the first sunday after the first full moon after April 4th, that is, the first 14 days period between new moon and full moon which is wholy within the spring season."
Ramiro' you have the concept but the date should be Maech 21- the Vernal Equinox
No, it's the first 14 days period between new moon and full moon after March 21, that is, the first full moon after April 4.
That's what I was told. And I can't remember an Easter in March.
Interesting reading, pipewatcher. It seems I had taken it wrong.
I once tried to make a program to calculate the position of the Sun in the sky, given a known position of the observer on Earth, and a known date. Dealing with dates was a major headache, because of all those conventions, leaps, etc.
perhaps I hang around too many priests, pastors and sundry other clerics
They typically draw a correlation between the occupancy in the pews and the collection plate. Very lean times now on both counts. I see that every Sunday morning.
My Herself who works for Mother Church as laity is very concerned about the level of indifference. Perhaps your area is an exception.
But based onthe response to our Holy Bishops edicts during the last election, I am inclined to be a bit of a contrarian.
Sorry about the comment. We sould stick to the topic of ITM. A much more uplifting...perhaps lilting... topic.
Date of St Patrick's Day changed...
Date of St Patrick's Day changed...
The Roman Catholic Church have changed the date of St Patrick's Day this year.
The 17th of March coincides with the Second Day of Holy Week and that is a more important event in the church's calendar than any Saint's day, so it has been officially moved to Saturday the 15th of March.
The last time it happened was in 1940 when St Patrick's landed on Palm Sunday and it won't happen again until the year 2160.
# Posted on January 5th 2009 by Krick Stahlschwanz
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...but I think the "important"
part of the it (i.e. the day off work) stays on the 17th? It's just the religious part that they shift around from time to time I think?
# Posted on January 5th 2009 by andy69
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Actually the same happened last year as well (google it if you like). it was done 'officially' but I didn't have the impression many parades etc were held on another day.
# Posted on January 5th 2009 by Prof. Prlwytzkofski
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I thought March 15th (the Ides of March) was when they celebrated the murder of Julius Caesar...
# Posted on January 5th 2009 by nicholas
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but the 15th is a Sunday........
# Posted on January 5th 2009 by bodatcha
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It happened in 2008 , as kilfar said. There were probably even posts on "the session" about it.
How quickly we forget!
# Posted on January 5th 2009 by Bren
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This post is a year out of date. St Pat's day was in Holy Week in 2008 and there was some change to the religious side of things I seem to remember. But this year Holy Week (the week before Easter) begins on 6 April. By which time even the fiercest St Patrick's hangovers will have abated.
# Posted on January 5th 2009 by Lissagriffin
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Oops!
Thanks for that Lissagriffin.
And whilst randomly surfing and collecting pointless nuggets of trivia in future i'll check my facts before posting!
Embarrassment!
Danke schon!
Krick
# Posted on January 5th 2009 by Krick Stahlschwanz
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On the subject of changing days:
The British government are always changing the date of May Day. Well, they don't actually call it May Day - they call it the "May Day Bank Holiday". The last time that this bank holiday was on the real "May Day" was in 2006. And it won't happen again until 2017.
Some years ago, when the "May Day" holiday was first announced, the English morris men were intially quite excited about it - May Day being their number one dance day of the year. As this day had never previously been a holiday, they always had to get up very early in ther morning to carry out their dance ritual - then make a quick change of clothing and do a day's work.
But their hopes were dashed. The bureaucrats decided that the new holiday would always be on the first Monday in May, so most years those morris men still have to go to work as well as dance ...
# Posted on January 5th 2009 by Mix O'Lydian
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Overheard in an office last month:
1st girl: "Christmas day is on a Thursday this year"
2nd girl: "What date would that be, then?"
# Posted on January 5th 2009 by Mix O'Lydian
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Who in the world pays attention to the Church Brass in Rome?
In the US, what's left of the priest corps is preaching to empty seats.
# Posted on January 5th 2009 by zippydw
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I respectfully disagree, Zippy.
# Posted on January 5th 2009 by justwhistle
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Why would somebody want to celebrate the murder of Julius Caesar?
And, furthermore, how important do you have to be to be "assassinated" instead of "murdered"?
Neither St. Patrick's Day nor the Ides Of March (the fifteenth) are Official Holidays at the hospital where I work.
# Posted on January 5th 2009 by fauxcelt
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But where, even vaguely, is that hospital, fauxcelt ?
You are another of the posters without even a CLUE as to the general area you live in. Come on, give us some detail, embroider to amuse by all means, but give us some grit, rather than simply that you were moved by some musician in the '80's and have never looked back......
# Posted on January 5th 2009 by Guernsey Pete
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The Celts might celebrate the murder of Caesar because he killed rather a lot of them. Or enslaved them. Or cut off their right hands, so they couldn't fight but could continue their existence doing useful jobs for the Romans - though I can't really think what.
(This mainly in Gaul.)
# Posted on January 5th 2009 by nicholas
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Easter sunday is the first sunday after the first full moon after April 4th, that is, the first 14 days period between new moon and full moon which is wholy within the spring season.
I learned this just a few years ago, despite coming from a country at least as catholic as Ireland.
# Posted on January 6th 2009 by Ramiro
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I'm just gonna order a pizza.
# Posted on January 6th 2009 by Lint - upon - Tweed
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That hospital is the Central Arkansas Veteran's Hospital in the Big Pebble (or, Little Rock, the state capitol). Since I am an employee of the federal government, our Official Holidays are determined and decided on by the infinite wisdom of the U.S. Congress.
I do look back occasionally in order to try to figure how far I have come and how far I still have to go.
# Posted on January 7th 2009 by fauxcelt
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Since Little Rock is the state capitol, it is jokingly referred to as the "Big Pebble" by people who live in the outlying parts of Arkansas.
# Posted on January 7th 2009 by fauxcelt
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Ray Mariani, if you are going to order out for pizza, I will take a large, plain cheese pizza.
# Posted on January 7th 2009 by fauxcelt
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"Easter sunday is the first sunday after the first full moon after April 4th, that is, the first 14 days period between new moon and full moon which is wholy within the spring season."
Ramiro' you have the concept but the date should be Maech 21- the Vernal Equinox
# Posted on January 7th 2009 by pipewatcher
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No, it's the first 14 days period between new moon and full moon after March 21, that is, the first full moon after April 4.
That's what I was told. And I can't remember an Easter in March.
# Posted on January 8th 2009 by Ramiro
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look at your old 2008 calendar
# Posted on January 8th 2009 by pipewatcher
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Apparently, the moon behaves a little differently than the way the Church says it does.Have a look here:
http://aa.usno.navy.mil/faq/docs/easter.php
# Posted on January 8th 2009 by pipewatcher
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Interesting reading, pipewatcher. It seems I had taken it wrong.
I once tried to make a program to calculate the position of the Sun in the sky, given a known position of the observer on Earth, and a known date. Dealing with dates was a major headache, because of all those conventions, leaps, etc.
# Posted on January 8th 2009 by Ramiro
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A little more in-depth and fascinating stuff here:
http://www.carnaval.com/easter/
salud, pipewatcher
# Posted on January 8th 2009 by pipewatcher
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justwhistle
perhaps I hang around too many priests, pastors and sundry other clerics
They typically draw a correlation between the occupancy in the pews and the collection plate. Very lean times now on both counts. I see that every Sunday morning.
My Herself who works for Mother Church as laity is very concerned about the level of indifference. Perhaps your area is an exception.
But based onthe response to our Holy Bishops edicts during the last election, I am inclined to be a bit of a contrarian.
Sorry about the comment. We sould stick to the topic of ITM. A much more uplifting...perhaps lilting... topic.
# Posted on January 8th 2009 by zippydw
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Amen, Brother Zippy! I agree. "ITM" is a much more uplilting subject than religion.
# Posted on January 9th 2009 by fauxcelt