I want to learn a few new polkas. My plan is to download a large number of the polka ABC's from the Tunes Section and do an "audio browse" using ABC Navigator. However it seems I need to select and open each tune file and add it to my tune book before doing a download of the entire tunebook. This would be painfully slow considering there are approx 50 pages of polkas.
Is there another way of doing it?
TIA
On the site anything which is transcribed in 2/4 time signature is listed as a polka. There are about 525 tunes submitted as 2/4 polkas. Some will not be polkas. You might want to consider that as well. Of course there are alternatives if what you want is to learn a few polkas.
;)
You can download them into one directory and then go to Tools > Merge directory to get one big ABC File.
You can also go to our site (http://www.sessionite.com), go to the documents page, and the first document is an abc file containing 5,574 tunes (138 Polkas).
At one point I had one file that contained over 34,000 tunes (lots of repeats). I don't know what happened to that one. After you learn the 5,574 in the sessionite file, write me and I will look for that one.
I am new to this discussion forum, but I would like to express that the way I found to best deal with ABC was to download NoteWorthy, which converts ABC back to visual notation which can be seen on the monitor. It has also help greatly with practice, a I can change the tempo as I bercome more accomplished with a tune. But, I would also repeat the advice to take it easy - there is so much out there that one can get overwhelmed.
deeor: Looks like bulk download in the manner I described is a no no then.
You could always add them to your tunebook and download the whole tunebook as one file. You can access your tunebook by clicking on your profile name in the You are logged in as: box on the right and selecting the Tunebook tab. Download is a button near the bottom.
You'll still have to go into each tune to add it to your tunebook, but I've found it very useful to maintain my own personal tunebook, here. Besides, but going into each tune, you'll learn a little something about it from the comments tab....
And even though he's gruff about it, I've found that there is useful wisdom in most of llig's posts, if you get past the knee-jerk reaction to his bluntness...
I tried to engage Jeremy earlier this year about some method for getting ABC in bulk from this site but I could never get a reply from him. I ended up using a screenscraper tool to walk through the site and download the tunes.
One thing you discover very quickly is that the quality control on the site is not very good. I'd say about a quarter of the ABCs I downloaded had serious problems. After editing all those out and fixing various other things, I ended up with a corpus of about 740 Dmaj reels.
The problem with "scraping" the tunes is that you don't necessarily get all the good transcriptions that are posted in the comments...
And deeor, in the instance earlier in this thread, in no way was llig being intolerant (in my mind, at least). He was offering a suggestion that might be useful to look at the content, instead of reacting negatively to it. Michael gets people's hackles up pretty easily, but I learned a long time ago to pay attention to the underlying content of his posts, because he has a lot to offer...
Posting a tune gives it a flag, "Hey, over here . . . it's a jig"
The comments get more into the playing. They are the best part of the tune section.
srt19170, the quality control (checks & balances?) is member driven. When you discover errors please bring in up in the comments to the tune. Or if you favour a variation let us know. As far as mistakes in the original Abc, only the posting member can edit those.
Pete, Michael's all grown up now. Time to prepare for those who come next.
Since the subject came up, & continues to come up, what type of quality controls would work? Assuming our webmaster has done his part. Many pardons to all have heard this before.
Bulk Downloads of ABC's?
Bulk Downloads of ABC's?
I want to learn a few new polkas. My plan is to download a large number of the polka ABC's from the Tunes Section and do an "audio browse" using ABC Navigator. However it seems I need to select and open each tune file and add it to my tune book before doing a download of the entire tunebook. This would be painfully slow considering there are approx 50 pages of polkas.
Is there another way of doing it?
TIA
# Posted on December 18th 2008 by deeor
Re: Bulk Downloads of ABC's?
yeah, quit being in such a god damn rush
# Posted on December 19th 2008 by ...
Re: Bulk Downloads of ABC's?
I will quit rushing when you stop being pig ignorant. I reckon I will have a long wait.
# Posted on December 19th 2008 by deeor
Re: Bulk Downloads of ABC's?
On the site anything which is transcribed in 2/4 time signature is listed as a polka. There are about 525 tunes submitted as 2/4 polkas. Some will not be polkas. You might want to consider that as well. Of course there are alternatives if what you want is to learn a few polkas.
;)
# Posted on December 19th 2008 by Ben Steen
* *
. . . some people transcribe their polkas in 4/4 time signature.
Just another thing to keep in mind.
Cheers
# Posted on December 19th 2008 by Ben Steen
Re: Bulk Downloads of ABC's?
You can download them into one directory and then go to Tools > Merge directory to get one big ABC File.
You can also go to our site (http://www.sessionite.com), go to the documents page, and the first document is an abc file containing 5,574 tunes (138 Polkas).
At one point I had one file that contained over 34,000 tunes (lots of repeats). I don't know what happened to that one. After you learn the 5,574 in the sessionite file, write me and I will look for that one.
# Posted on December 19th 2008 by feardearg
Re: Bulk Downloads of ABC's?
Cheers;
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/18087
71 widely played polkas
June 13th 2008 by Will CPT
# Posted on December 19th 2008 by Ben Steen
Re: Bulk Downloads of ABC's?
Thanks R-n and feardearg. Plenty of material there. Looks like bulk download in the manner I described is a no no then
# Posted on December 19th 2008 by deeor
Re: Bulk Downloads of ABC's?
I am new to this discussion forum, but I would like to express that the way I found to best deal with ABC was to download NoteWorthy, which converts ABC back to visual notation which can be seen on the monitor. It has also help greatly with practice, a I can change the tempo as I bercome more accomplished with a tune. But, I would also repeat the advice to take it easy - there is so much out there that one can get overwhelmed.
# Posted on December 19th 2008 by ranger64
Re: Bulk Downloads of ABC's?
deeor: Looks like bulk download in the manner I described is a no no then.
You could always add them to your tunebook and download the whole tunebook as one file. You can access your tunebook by clicking on your profile name in the You are logged in as: box on the right and selecting the Tunebook tab. Download is a button near the bottom.
You'll still have to go into each tune to add it to your tunebook, but I've found it very useful to maintain my own personal tunebook, here. Besides, but going into each tune, you'll learn a little something about it from the comments tab....
# Posted on December 19th 2008 by KeepFiddlin'
Re: Bulk Downloads of ABC's?
You could always just grab Henrik Norbeck's polka files:
http://www.norbeck.nu/abc/i/hnp0.abc
http://www.norbeck.nu/abc/i/hnp1.abc
That's 115 polkas right there.
And even though he's gruff about it, I've found that there is useful wisdom in most of llig's posts, if you get past the knee-jerk reaction to his bluntness...
# Posted on December 19th 2008 by Reverend
Re: Bulk Downloads of ABC's?
Reverend, There is bluntness and there is sheer rudeness and intolerance of any other viewpoint but his own. An exact opposite of your good self.
# Posted on December 19th 2008 by deeor
Re: Bulk Downloads of ABC's?
llig can surprise you. But knee jerk reactions . . . well I'll leave that to each of you to decide where it gets us.
# Posted on December 19th 2008 by Ben Steen
Re: Bulk Downloads of ABC's?
I tried to engage Jeremy earlier this year about some method for getting ABC in bulk from this site but I could never get a reply from him. I ended up using a screenscraper tool to walk through the site and download the tunes.
One thing you discover very quickly is that the quality control on the site is not very good. I'd say about a quarter of the ABCs I downloaded had serious problems. After editing all those out and fixing various other things, I ended up with a corpus of about 740 Dmaj reels.
# Posted on December 19th 2008 by srt19170
Re: Bulk
Michael's right, ya' know?
Sounds like you did get Jeremy's response.
# Posted on December 19th 2008 by Ben Steen
Re: Bulk Downloads of ABC's?
The problem with "scraping" the tunes is that you don't necessarily get all the good transcriptions that are posted in the comments...
And deeor, in the instance earlier in this thread, in no way was llig being intolerant (in my mind, at least). He was offering a suggestion that might be useful to look at the content, instead of reacting negatively to it. Michael gets people's hackles up pretty easily, but I learned a long time ago to pay attention to the underlying content of his posts, because he has a lot to offer...
# Posted on December 20th 2008 by Reverend
Re: Bulk Downloads of ABC's?
Posting a tune gives it a flag, "Hey, over here . . . it's a jig"
The comments get more into the playing. They are the best part of the tune section.
srt19170, the quality control (checks & balances?) is member driven. When you discover errors please bring in up in the comments to the tune. Or if you favour a variation let us know. As far as mistakes in the original Abc, only the posting member can edit those.
Pete, Michael's all grown up now. Time to prepare for those who come next.
# Posted on December 20th 2008 by Ben Steen
State of the art ABC's?
Since the subject came up, & continues to come up, what type of quality controls would work? Assuming our webmaster has done his part. Many pardons to all have heard this before.
# Posted on December 20th 2008 by Ben Steen