Still failing to find a good program to convert midi to abc(plus) notation, where good= faithful conversion without a lot of post-conversion clean-up needed to the abc + good windows-ish interface. Anybody point me in the right direction?? Preferably modestly priced shareware of course!
This for me is part of fulfilling a long-term wish to be able to sit in front of my computer mike and see what I'm playing appear on screen (not necessarily realtime - happy to record first as a wav), and importantly to produce me an abc(plus) for further harmonisation, chording, test playing, etc.
Can do so now, with a bunch of cobbled together programs, but is very messy & unsatisfactory results ...
Anybody out there doing this already???
TS Audio-to-Midi is the best I've found so far for the wav to midi step - good all round...
Melody assistant is,nt a bad little prog, for doing that process and quite reasonably priced as well. import wav. midi. abc.etc and export as whichever you choose
www.myriad-online.com/en/products/melody.htm
I use InVoice (which takes a live mic and converts internally to .wav) and then automatically converts to midi. This uses the Intend(TM) engine which auto-detects the musical style and then corrects wrong notes. It can "learn" whether you like the corrections or not and becomes pretty flawless after a few iterations of the process. InVoice can also generate notes via samples from the wav file, and hence produce live correction of music while you're performing (obviously you need a speaker / amp to put out the audio). There's a version which is being developed which does a similar thing to speech, but in this case, uses "PeerCorrect(TM)" to allow others to correct your wrong words. In this way, social faux-pas can be corrected by the group leading to flawless conversation (again, an amp and speaker combo is also required, in order to reproduce the corrected speech). Intriguingly, for both the musical and speech versions of the software, you can select the "inverse" of the output, which takes correct notes and substitutes mistakes (based on the inverse of what you stored as "mistakes"). In the speech version, provisionally called "Gobsh*te(TM)", this part of a suite of BeerMode add-ons.
(my reply got lost somewhere- I'll try again, briefer...) Mark Harmer - thanks, my knuckles rightly rapped for computer-speak on a music site...
In defense, however your honour... I'm a realtime musician, singing & playing now 45 years, looking to repay some by helping groups get real and alive in their music (anti-wallpaper-music). I use the infernal computer to help dig stuff out of the library in my head/heart and get it down (tunes, harmonies, words) for people to use. Dots, like recordings/CDs/Computers are a compromise compared to real live aural, yes, but can be very helpful in bringing some people out.
When I play, I increasingly get "What CD did you get that off?" or "Is that an Altan tune?" - reflecting a culture the pub "session" world seems to have drifted into... I want to shout "No, its .....(deleted) traditional" or better, "No, its yours" !!!
Computer helps me, but I want to spend as little time as I can at it tapping and mousing; hence the plea for good easy software.
Cheers and much real music to you. Dave Thomas (up near Inverness).
I have use Tab-Edit for this -
Bring up a midi file -convert by
exporting to abc - A menu comes
Saying only can save 16 bars
save anyway,,go back to midi
/score one - Delete, 16 bars ,save
again example-
{this would give you 32 bar jig}
Put then together {notepad etc} OR-
carry on like this till you get your
full tune - Save in ABc software,,
Tweek- the notes if you have to,,
Should play full tune...
Yes seams alot of bother but,
if you really need Midi to ABC/SCORE.
It works ,,= http://www.tabledit.com/
jim,,
Midi to ABC
Midi to ABC
Still failing to find a good program to convert midi to abc(plus) notation, where good= faithful conversion without a lot of post-conversion clean-up needed to the abc + good windows-ish interface. Anybody point me in the right direction?? Preferably modestly priced shareware of course!
This for me is part of fulfilling a long-term wish to be able to sit in front of my computer mike and see what I'm playing appear on screen (not necessarily realtime - happy to record first as a wav), and importantly to produce me an abc(plus) for further harmonisation, chording, test playing, etc.
Can do so now, with a bunch of cobbled together programs, but is very messy & unsatisfactory results ...
Anybody out there doing this already???
TS Audio-to-Midi is the best I've found so far for the wav to midi step - good all round...
# Posted on November 1st 2008 by softmuse
Re: Midi to ABC
Melody assistant is,nt a bad little prog, for doing that process and quite reasonably priced as well. import wav. midi. abc.etc and export as whichever you choose
www.myriad-online.com/en/products/melody.htm
# Posted on November 1st 2008 by pencross
Re: Midi to ABC
I use InVoice (which takes a live mic and converts internally to .wav) and then automatically converts to midi. This uses the Intend(TM) engine which auto-detects the musical style and then corrects wrong notes. It can "learn" whether you like the corrections or not and becomes pretty flawless after a few iterations of the process. InVoice can also generate notes via samples from the wav file, and hence produce live correction of music while you're performing (obviously you need a speaker / amp to put out the audio). There's a version which is being developed which does a similar thing to speech, but in this case, uses "PeerCorrect(TM)" to allow others to correct your wrong words. In this way, social faux-pas can be corrected by the group leading to flawless conversation (again, an amp and speaker combo is also required, in order to reproduce the corrected speech). Intriguingly, for both the musical and speech versions of the software, you can select the "inverse" of the output, which takes correct notes and substitutes mistakes (based on the inverse of what you stored as "mistakes"). In the speech version, provisionally called "Gobsh*te(TM)", this part of a suite of BeerMode add-ons.
# Posted on November 1st 2008 by Mark Harmer
Re: Midi to ABC
...although it can't do ABC, sadly.
# Posted on November 1st 2008 by Mark Harmer
Re: Midi to ABC
Try TablEdit
# Posted on November 1st 2008 by WelshGuy
Re: Midi to ABC
LOL Mark. Brilliant. So WTF, softmuse? Ever thought of just, oh what's it called... PLAYING?
# Posted on November 2nd 2008 by fidkid
Midi to fidi
Every poster above is playing. They just happen to have a geeky side.
Cheers!
# Posted on November 2nd 2008 by Ben Steen
Then again Harmer is is just high on something.
# Posted on November 2nd 2008 by Ben Steen
Re: Midi to ABC
(my reply got lost somewhere- I'll try again, briefer...) Mark Harmer - thanks, my knuckles rightly rapped for computer-speak on a music site...
In defense, however your honour... I'm a realtime musician, singing & playing now 45 years, looking to repay some by helping groups get real and alive in their music (anti-wallpaper-music). I use the infernal computer to help dig stuff out of the library in my head/heart and get it down (tunes, harmonies, words) for people to use. Dots, like recordings/CDs/Computers are a compromise compared to real live aural, yes, but can be very helpful in bringing some people out.
When I play, I increasingly get "What CD did you get that off?" or "Is that an Altan tune?" - reflecting a culture the pub "session" world seems to have drifted into... I want to shout "No, its .....(deleted) traditional" or better, "No, its yours" !!!
Computer helps me, but I want to spend as little time as I can at it tapping and mousing; hence the plea for good easy software.
Cheers and much real music to you. Dave Thomas (up near Inverness).
# Posted on November 2nd 2008 by softmuse
Re: Midi to ABC
I have use Tab-Edit for this -
Bring up a midi file -convert by
exporting to abc - A menu comes
Saying only can save 16 bars
save anyway,,go back to midi
/score one - Delete, 16 bars ,save
again example-
{this would give you 32 bar jig}
Put then together {notepad etc} OR-
carry on like this till you get your
full tune - Save in ABc software,,
Tweek- the notes if you have to,,
Should play full tune...
Yes seams alot of bother but,
if you really need Midi to ABC/SCORE.
It works ,,= http://www.tabledit.com/
jim,,
# Posted on November 2nd 2008 by FIDDLE4
Re: Midi to ABC
Sorry - no comments on geekiness or otherwise intended - I was having fun! My brain's probably gone soft looking after a toddler for a few days...
Anyway, if someone hasn't invented such software (either the stuff softmuse wants or the stuff I "invented") - then they should!!
# Posted on November 2nd 2008 by Mark Harmer
Re: Midi to ABC
Thanks Mark. Cheers, Dave T
# Posted on November 2nd 2008 by softmuse