Re: Aging process and concomitant mitochondrial dysfunction
It reminds me of how annoying it is when people you are playing with get all anxious when the time approaches for the barman to signal "last tune". They act like it actually is the last bloody tune. The very last tune they'll ever play ever. Feckin eedjits, it's only the last tune tonight.
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I dunno. I really like to play fast. Anyhow, even when you play at a slower tempo, cuts and taps and stuff stay the same speed, so you still have to have tha flexibility in your fingers.
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Playing fast is not always the answer. Remember what the old bull said to the young bull "Let's walk down there and do them all". Playing slow sometimes can have its advantages.
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Wow, tough one. I used to complain about people playing too fast until I could also play that fast.
I guess I'll have to get back to you when I'm older and can't play that fast anymore. Leave this thread up for 20-30 years or so, I'll be right back with ya.
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Now that I'm old I can remember loads of tunes and getting better at that all the time, but I have to chuck out loads of stuff like where I left my reading specs or where I parked my bike in order to make room.
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Richard, why on earth would anyone need reading specs when learning tunes, anyway?
Going back to the previous post - is there a published paper in a scientific or medical journal for that "science"? Not that I necessarily doubt it per se, but I feel slightly more believing if that sort of thing has been reported in peer-reviewing journals such as "The Lancet" or "Nature", for example.
Btw, my resting heart rate is lower than my age in years, so on that basis it takes quite a lot of fast playing (whether in sessions or orchestras) for the alleged adrenalin "effect" to work with me.
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I have the pleasure of making music with many older musicians on a regular basis. How they play music varies from person to person. Some of them play more slowly than others and some of them don't. It seems to depend on the individual who is playing. Some people just seem to age more gracefully than others. The experts seem to think there is probably a genetic factor at work here.
As an example of this, I can mention my father who is eighty and can still square dance and contra dance. He walks regularly for exercise and works in his garden everyday.
On the other hand, My father-in-law was able to drive his own car and ride his bicycle around town as well as live independently and take care of himself until he suffered his first stroke. After this stroke, he needed someone to help take care of him. My father-in-law had three more strokes before he died of complications from prostate cancer in August of this year at age eighty.
Aging process and concomitant mitochondrial dysfunction
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you're painting a large swath with a dull brush (or something like that).
# Posted on October 4th 2008 by airport
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ha, I like it.
Is it not simply that the older you get, the less you can be arsed?
# Posted on October 4th 2008 by llig leahcim
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It reminds me of how annoying it is when people you are playing with get all anxious when the time approaches for the barman to signal "last tune". They act like it actually is the last bloody tune. The very last tune they'll ever play ever. Feckin eedjits, it's only the last tune tonight.
# Posted on October 4th 2008 by llig leahcim
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How can you be so sure of that?
# Posted on October 4th 2008 by leoj
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Oh, sorry, what I meant was that we are all the offspring of Adam and Eve. Oh no ... hang on ... I can be more specific, It's Noah isn't it.
# Posted on October 4th 2008 by llig leahcim
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Oh definitely Wocky -its absolutely this;
"Or is it that young turks like to set world speed records just for the sake of it?"
sooo insightful.
# Posted on October 4th 2008 by bb
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Oh feck, I forgot what thread I was on
# Posted on October 4th 2008 by llig leahcim
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Karate, clearly a typo in the Latin - it should be "vox sessionis".
# Posted on October 4th 2008 by Trevor Jennings
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I dunno. I really like to play fast. Anyhow, even when you play at a slower tempo, cuts and taps and stuff stay the same speed, so you still have to have tha flexibility in your fingers.
# Posted on October 4th 2008 by llig leahcim
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"older players like more mellow slower sessions"
Who says?
# Posted on October 4th 2008 by Just a person
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Older players can play fast. They just can't remember where they put their mito-CHORDS!
# Posted on October 4th 2008 by Cape Cod Struggler
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Playing fast is not always the answer. Remember what the old bull said to the young bull "Let's walk down there and do them all". Playing slow sometimes can have its advantages.
# Posted on October 4th 2008 by Cape Cod Struggler
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Wow, tough one. I used to complain about people playing too fast until I could also play that fast.
I guess I'll have to get back to you when I'm older and can't play that fast anymore. Leave this thread up for 20-30 years or so, I'll be right back with ya.
# Posted on October 4th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
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what about sean mcguire he was no chicken when he died and jean carignan both very quick and clean,so dont phone mythbusters coz this myth is busted
# Posted on October 4th 2008 by myparasgon
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There is a truth about 'playing above the heartbeat'.
'And here's the science!'
When you play tunes faster than the speed of your heartbeat your body produces more adrenalin thereby keeping the pace flowing.
Below the heartbeat and slow tunes often get even slower and your mind drifts and. . . . What was the question again?
# Posted on October 4th 2008 by banjoburger
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Now that I'm old I can remember loads of tunes and getting better at that all the time, but I have to chuck out loads of stuff like where I left my reading specs or where I parked my bike in order to make room.
# Posted on October 4th 2008 by RichardB
Re: Aging process and concomitant mitochondrial dysfunction
Richard, why on earth would anyone need reading specs when learning tunes, anyway?
Going back to the previous post - is there a published paper in a scientific or medical journal for that "science"? Not that I necessarily doubt it per se, but I feel slightly more believing if that sort of thing has been reported in peer-reviewing journals such as "The Lancet" or "Nature", for example.
Btw, my resting heart rate is lower than my age in years, so on that basis it takes quite a lot of fast playing (whether in sessions or orchestras) for the alleged adrenalin "effect" to work with me.
# Posted on October 4th 2008 by Trevor Jennings
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Yes, I read it in a specialised publication called "The Sun"
Just after that sex scandal, you know, the one with the dog and the concert flute on page 12, in between the beyonce underwear article and.. and...
I,d better stop now, my adrenal gland is pumping (and I have to get back to my patients!)
# Posted on October 4th 2008 by banjoburger
Re: Aging process and concomitant mitochondrial dysfunction
I have the pleasure of making music with many older musicians on a regular basis. How they play music varies from person to person. Some of them play more slowly than others and some of them don't. It seems to depend on the individual who is playing. Some people just seem to age more gracefully than others. The experts seem to think there is probably a genetic factor at work here.
As an example of this, I can mention my father who is eighty and can still square dance and contra dance. He walks regularly for exercise and works in his garden everyday.
On the other hand, My father-in-law was able to drive his own car and ride his bicycle around town as well as live independently and take care of himself until he suffered his first stroke. After this stroke, he needed someone to help take care of him. My father-in-law had three more strokes before he died of complications from prostate cancer in August of this year at age eighty.
# Posted on October 4th 2008 by fauxcelt
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Certainly we slow down and develop an attention deficit. Why do you think they make Ritalin and Modafinil? Geeze!
# Posted on October 6th 2008 by BarryM
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just play the tunes, then. and above all, listen. the blokes i play with all compete to see who the hell plays loudest. whats a mandolin to do?
# Posted on October 6th 2008 by kickapooviking