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Milwaukee Irish Fest

Milwaukee Irish Fest

Just curious- anyone from the list going this year? I believe the dates are August 14th-17th.

Arbo

# Posted on July 22nd 2003 by Imnotirish

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Yes.

# Posted on July 22nd 2003 by cuchulain54

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Yes! I'm really looking forward to it.

# Posted on July 22nd 2003 by lcox

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I've heard that's it's a really great festival. A music buddy who was there last year had a blast. I think Patrick Street and members of the Kilfenora Ceili band were out there last year.

I checked out the flute tutors on the website and have never heard of any of them.(and I do my homework!!) One teaches silver flute....eeeeek!!.....

But I've done the math. For me to fly out there, rent a car, get a hotel would be almost the same amount of cash to lay out for a trip across the pond. My next festival will be this winter in Donegal...yay!!!!

But for people who live close by, it would be a shame to miss....just my .25 cents......

Here's a link for the summer school:

http://www.irishfest.com/summerschool/ifss_2003_0520r.pdf

Joyce

# Posted on July 22nd 2003 by JMH

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The Milwaukee is a good 'un. Well, so next year, why don't we organize a field trip up there, and we can all go up together, Joyce? And did anyone notice that they have a scholarship available?

Of course, this year, i believe the Harley Davidson 100th anniversary celebrations are right about the same time in the same place. Now THAT ought to make for some really great moments -- HD and Irish traditional arts... ;)

Zina

# Posted on July 22nd 2003 by Zina Lee

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Milwaukee Fest for next year is not out of the question........My options for next summer are open.....although I was just recently told that the Joe Mooney summer school in Drunshanbo, Leitrim would be a great one. However it starts immediately after the Catskills......decisions decisions........

Zina, let's talk as it gets closer.....my life could be very different in 6 months....so anything's possible.....

Joyce

# Posted on July 22nd 2003 by JMH

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Why not schedule the next North American Session.org Session for Milwaukee, to coincide with the official Irish Fest? Heh, Rose'll kill me for commandeering two summers in a row, but she doesn't have to know until it's too late, eh?

# Posted on July 22nd 2003 by Will Harmon

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oooo, wouldn't that be fun! Or the Catskills. Or RMFC. Well, maybe not the latter, it's a camp, not a festival, so you have to pay the full fee to get in, whereas with a festival you don't have to go to anything to get into the sessions.

Although we're talking about another trip to Ireland next year or the year after and renting a cottage for a bunch of us, so it may be that traveling may be out for me until that's all paid for...

# Posted on July 22nd 2003 by Zina Lee

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Will & AJ in the same session? Oh my heart.... !

But don't you think we should see if any of us survive Will Fest 2003? It could be last ones standing, you know.... :)

# Posted on July 22nd 2003 by emily_bmore

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LOL

# Posted on July 22nd 2003 by Zina Lee

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Joyce,

I was not very impressed with the instructional aspects either. My original intent was to go and hear some great music (plenty of that!), and sit in on the various sessions that spring up. It's refreshing to hear great players live as opposed to recordings. Even though I hear great players hear in New York, it's a different animal when so many great performers are
all in one place at the same time... one becomes 'infused' with the music. Then comes the difficult part-
getting the music out from inside yourself.

Arbo

# Posted on July 22nd 2003 by Imnotirish

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Not impressed with the instructional aspect? Tommy Peoples is teaching fiddle, John Doyle guitar, John Williams concertina. I'd call that fairly impressive, though I can't speak to the quality of the flute instruction. I know they've had Joan Madden teach whistle in the past.Their emphasis seems to shift around from year to year. Who knows? Maybe flute will be the thing next year.

# Posted on July 22nd 2003 by cuchulain54

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Cuchulain54 - The three you mentioned are impressive musicians indeed. But look at the line up a Gaelic Roots and the Catskills. For fiddle alone at the Catskills the tutors were Tommy Peoples, Seamus Connolly, John Carty, Sandy Jones, Patrick Orceau, Liz Knowles, and last but not least, Tony DeMarco. All very well-known, incredible master musicians. For flute, you had a choice of Mike Rafferty, Paul McGratten, Jimmy Noonan, Frank Claudy, Mike McHale, and John Skelton. It doesn't get any better than that!! Now those are impressive festival lineups!

I guess I'm just spoiled having gone to both Gaelic Roots and East Durham....

Joyce

# Posted on July 23rd 2003 by JMH

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I think the "school" aspect of Milwaukee is secondary to the Festival, and is certainly on a much smaller scale that Gaelic Roots or the Catskills, which are designed to be instructional camps. Check out the list of performers at Irishfest.com.

# Posted on July 23rd 2003 by lcox

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Yes, you are right! If I lived in reasonable driving distance, I'd surely be there!

Joyce

# Posted on July 23rd 2003 by JMH

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Well, one thing to remember ... in this stuff, the most "famous" names are brilliant players, yes, but so are many of the not so famous names, and there are always the players who work in garages and offices and in plumbing and janitorial work who don't care much about recording and being famous. Just because you haven't heard of a player doesn't mean a thing in this stuff. :)

Zina

# Posted on July 23rd 2003 by Zina Lee

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True, one of my favorite flute players is Patsy Maloney and he has never recorded an album. I was lucky to meet him and hear him play in a concert and a few sessions this past May....absolutely gorgeous flute playing....

Joyce

# Posted on July 23rd 2003 by JMH

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Joyce, those are indeed impressive lineups. I don't know what I was thinking. Since bigger is automatically better, we should all hold out for only the most impressive lineups possible.

# Posted on July 23rd 2003 by cuchulain54

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I'm going. I've not been before, but everybody says it's great. The lineup looks wonderful. I'll have to have another look at the fest website and see what it says about the workshops. I've been assuming that they'll be the usual festival "workshop," as in informal performance. On the other hand, if they're really going to be workshops, I'll bring my fiddle and all the better.

# Posted on July 23rd 2003 by Romkey

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I'm going, and I'll let you know how the flute/whistle teachers turn out. But I'd definitely like to learn more about the Catskills for next year. Do they have a website? And I'm glad to hear Mr. Skelton is surviving his summer camp rambles. Isn't he just the best teacher?

cat.

# Posted on July 23rd 2003 by cwildeky

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BTW, my fiddle- & guitar-playing fella is a mess as they actually scheduled Tommy Peoples & John Doyle in the same time slot. So I guess I've got it good.

# Posted on July 23rd 2003 by cwildeky

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Cuchulain54, because it is very expensive for me to fly out and my vacation hours are precious, yes I tend to hold out for those most "impressive lineups" or festivals that have my favorite flute players. I can only choose a few festivals a year and if no flute players that I am familiar with are teaching, I don't want to take the gamble......I'm extremely happy with my decisions to attend the festivals I chose this year : )

# Posted on July 23rd 2003 by JMH

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Hey if Kevin Henry (old Sligo-style flute player currently living in Chicago) teaches at Milwaukee next summer, I'll hitchhike if need be!!! If anyone has any info on where he might be teaching in the near future, please please do tell me.

Joyce

# Posted on July 23rd 2003 by JMH

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If I were in your position, I'd make the same choices, I'm sure. But I'd perhaps try to curb my self-satisfaction and not diss the events I've chosen to ignore, on the grounds that other people like to feel good as well about the choices that it is in their best interest to make. Anway, lynncox is correct: the Milwaukee event is heavily oriented to performance and includes workshops as a sort of afterthought. That being the case, it IS impressive that they have Peoples et. al in their lineup.

# Posted on July 23rd 2003 by cuchulain54

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I have been to the festival and the school a few times. The best teaching I had was from someone who was a last-inute replacement, and not a "name" at all. She is a superb teacher, kind and lovely--and I was terrified of her, and so practiced very hard. I also took button box that same week from a well-known NAME, and really didn't learn much. You see, one is a teacher, and one is a performer. They do not always fit into the same package. I know, I know, there are plenty of people who are extraordinary at both--I'm just telling a story here.

Meanwhile, if anyone is interested in a session in Beloit, WI that week, let me know. We're about an hour from Milwaukee, and right on I-90. I am not going to Irishfest this year.
Cassie

# Posted on July 23rd 2003 by woman of the house

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OH my gosh: "curb my self-satisfaction........." Did you even read my first post on this topic??

This is too funny! Time to get back to work here.

Have a nice day : )

Joyce

# Posted on July 23rd 2003 by JMH

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Joyce & cuch, knock it off! I don't care who started it! I've met BOTH your sorry asses, don't make me drive to your respective residences & beat the living daylights out of you!

Uh but if I did, could we have some tunes after? cuch, I finally learned Custy's after hearing McGoldrick do it on Morning Rory, different setting, but you're so right, a haunting little tune, I"m sorry it took me so long to come to my senses.



# Posted on July 23rd 2003 by emily_bmore

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Funny you should say that Tanya, as it was your comment that really made me angry the other day, funny that!

# Posted on July 23rd 2003 by bb

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If anyone meets up with the McPeakes in Milwaukee, please say a big "Hello" from me. I was supposed to meet up with them in Miltown but didn't make it over. Francis Snr, Francis Jnr and Eugene should be doing at least one concert but I suspect Francis Jnr will be giving individual flute tuition as well. And if possible, remind Eugene to stay clear of concertina players and their mums - he'll know what you're talking about.

All the hairy chest

Conan

# Posted on July 23rd 2003 by ConĂ¡n McDonnell

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Tanya wrote: "I wish people would stop fighting a grow up"......gosh I think these disagreements and so called spats are quite entertaining. Adds a kind of spice to the mix....if ALL we did was pat each other on the back and say sweet things to each other, I'd be dreadfully bored with the Session.org....I thought Dow's post the other day was fun.....I totally fell for the wind up yesterday (forgot to take my meds - no only joking)....come on Tanya, lighten up....a little drama is fun....

No one is forcing anyone to read these posts.

As far as practice goes, I play about 3-4 hours a day, sometimes more, 7 days a week. This (right now) is my screw-off time at work.

Ok, time to do my TPS reports (joke from the movie Office Space)

Tootles,
Joyce

# Posted on July 24th 2003 by JMH

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Tanya, I think perhaps you've missed some fairly important points, as well as a couple of hints, so let me try directness.

One, Mark (Dow) is a close friend of bb's (whose name is Bridie). Because your comment was directed at a good friend of hers, your comment WAS directed to her. As well, most of the regulars know both of them better than we know you. Two, Mark likes to wind people up, and that whole post was a windup that quite a few people missed, which isn't exactly Mark's fault, even if, as I told him myself, he took it just a tad too far. Three, it's making you look a bit of a prat to keep saying things like "everybody hates you", telling other people to grow up, and insulting other people's playing ability when you don't know anything about them. (Grownups usually are a little more careful about how they use the word "hate", for one.) Mark happens to be a very good player, as a look at his past posts would tell you if you were paying attention.

Please pay more attention to what's going on around you.

Zina

# Posted on July 24th 2003 by Zina Lee

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Fact is, Tanya: JMH (Joyce) and I have ironed out our differences off-site in the most adult way possible -- she persuaded me I'm a dumb ass and I agreed with her -- mostly because I wanted to avoid having emily_az come over and kick the #(#*$) out of both of us.

# Posted on July 24th 2003 by cuchulain54

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Cool, now I know who you are Cuchulain54. Emily had nice things to say about you and your son. Who knows, maybe we'll all meet up at Milwaukee Fest someday. I really do want to go but it's too far of a drive for me this August.....

Joyce

# Posted on July 24th 2003 by JMH

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Emily is a pathological liar. My son and I are both malignant a-holes.
Milw-I-fest is indeed a nice place to hear a lot of good music, though it probably isn't terrific for workshops. Actually, I have no basis for comparison, never having been to any kind of workshop.
Flook is performing there this year -- they're kind of a fluter band, aren't they? Liz Carroll w/John Doyle, Tommy Peoples, Altan...It's on the lakeshore, real nice. My only complaint is that you can't get a pint of Guinness there. All the stages are sponsored by Milwaukee breweries, who know damn well that they'd not sell a drop of there was a Guinness booth.

# Posted on July 24th 2003 by cuchulain54

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LOL -- cuch, I don't know that that was graceful per se, but well done...I too have heard lots of wonderful things about you (from not just Emily, by the way) and look forward to getting together with you to play a few at some point or other! If we do Milwaukee next year, then that'll probably be when if we can't manage sooner. :)

# Posted on July 24th 2003 by Zina Lee

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Malignant? Oh my god, is it terminal?

Malevolent, maladapted, mellifluous, misanthropic, I'd give my corpus collosum for a thesaurus at the moment, is maladroit a word? In any case, yes you are all of those, & yes I'm a pathological liar. You can only ask me one question hee hee....

btw cuch you could always get a pint at the food court at the mall, I hear they pour a tasty one there. Then there's always Flannery's but I think we might be barred for life.

# Posted on July 24th 2003 by emily_bmore

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The musos at Flannery's assured us we were welcome back but they never wanted to see you there again, because your stunning playing made them all look like rank beginners.

# Posted on July 24th 2003 by cuchulain54

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Oh that hurts, cuch, that really hurts.

# Posted on July 24th 2003 by emily_bmore

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What? What? I was complimenting you, for goodness' sake! Besides, that hunk you were trying to pick up is long gone by now, probably wasting away at some singles bar in Arizona or Baltimore or something.

# Posted on July 24th 2003 by cuchulain54

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Probably becoming an alcoholic in his vain search for Our Emily in every bar in AZ... *grin*

# Posted on July 24th 2003 by Zina Lee

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Hardly. He happens to tend bar at that Art Deco hotel/martini bar place around the corner, but he can't drink at his own bar so he goes to Flannery's to drink. Uh this is in Milwaukee & he had no idea I was from AZ, I think. Whatever.

Cuch you are SO lame, & you lie like a rug. I would ask for my kokopelli back, but I wouldn't want to be rude to Mrs Cuch. :P

# Posted on July 24th 2003 by emily_bmore

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My kokopelli? oh, that hurts, em, that really hurts.

# Posted on July 24th 2003 by cuchulain54

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Your "kokopelli" now, is *that* what they call it over your way?
*snort*

# Posted on July 24th 2003 by Will Harmon

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That's "my kokopelli statuette," graciously given by em to mrs. cuch, ungraciously usurped by me. I think I'm the only one over my way who is calling it mine -- am I right, em?

# Posted on July 24th 2003 by cuchulain54

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Hey Zina, thats exactly the point I was trying to make. I guess what I meant is, If you dont know someone personally, you probably shouldnt judge them so harshly:)

# Posted on July 24th 2003 by bb

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Well done Zina!

I was just about to make exactly the same comments to our friend Tanya Lee Teraoshi. I didn't realise you also used the word prat over there...thought it was a UK/Ireland-only epithet.
It sums up her lack of awareness and TOTAL lack of any sense of irony very succinctly.

# Posted on July 24th 2003 by Geoff Pollitt

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I agree with Helen, its all a bit of fun when we are bickering on line, you just need to lighten up a bit Tanya and laugh it off otherwise people see its easy to wind you up and they'll keep doing it.

# Posted on July 24th 2003 by bb

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Hmmm lots to think about on this thread.

I also think I've been wound up by cuch. :) The little votive candle holder you may keep, my small contribution to your growing shrine to flute players everywhere, heh. Keep it lit in the hopes that one day I'll darken your doorway again & knock your socks off with my playing, even after I've had a couple! Now there's an admirable goal, eh?

I think about you guys a lot, please say hello to Mrs Cuch & AJ, & wish him the best of luck with Mr. Peoples. :)

# Posted on July 24th 2003 by emily_bmore

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Geoff, it's an import here, largely through public television and books/novels, mainly because sometimes "prat" is really the only apellation that works when someone deserves it, although I think "gormless" often works just as well, although with more overtones of deliberate obtuseness than "prat". :)

# Posted on July 24th 2003 by Zina Lee

And, of course, as Brad once said, it's all fun and games until someone plays Britches Full of Stitches... *grin*

# Posted on July 24th 2003 by Zina Lee

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hahaha I love it :)

# Posted on July 24th 2003 by emily_bmore

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Act like a grown up???? who ME???.....LOL.....I refuse to grow up..never never never!!!!! : )~

Joyce

# Posted on July 25th 2003 by JMH

Sorry, Tanya, I couldn't help myself....but i promise I'll never play bluegrass in an Irish session...

And what's with the blank personal description?? Surely you can come up with something fun and interesting : )

Joyce

# Posted on July 25th 2003 by JMH

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I'm saying nothing!

# Posted on July 25th 2003 by Geoff Pollitt

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Just got back from Milwaukee. Made it up for the Saturday performances.

Liz Carroll and John Doyle were great (we got to meet John, which was fun). Tommy People was sublime playing alone in a tent. Karen Casey was good but the band she was fronting, despite a good button accordion player, was spoiled by way too much synthesized keyboard bass through the mains (any would have been too much, but the sound man just kept turning up the bass, as if it were an Aerosmith show). Altan blew people away, even absent a key member due to an impending October birth.

Anybody want to compare notes, compare away. A very cool festival with multiple stages and venues. If you knew who you wanted to hear next, all you had to do was show up about 30 minutes early and you could get a great seat (like 8th row center aisle for Altan.)

Next year I have to make it there for the week of workshops. I could have been in class all week with Tommy, assuming being able to nab an "advanced" rating.

# Posted on August 17th 2003 by Romkey

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