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Who do you think is the best tradmusicplaying lover of our time?

Who do you think is the best tradmusicplaying lover of our time?

We will need to hear details from all of his/her partners for authentication.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by oldstrings

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Can we count prophets without honour in their own countries?

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Steve Shaw

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Well, that's me disqualified for a start, if you need testimonials......

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Guernsey Pete

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Oh, this is easy. It's The Limerick Rake, of course.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by SWFL Fiddler

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I am automatically just as disqualified as Guernsey Pete.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by fauxcelt

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I nominate myself. I'm the best lover I've ever had.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Marklar

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Excellent. So far, entirely appropriate responses to a silly opinion poll.
It is guaranteed accurate 19 times out of 20, 97% of the time.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by oldstrings

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But good choice, SWFL Fiddler. Large groups like the Rakes of Kildare and the Rakes of Mallow are, of course, disqualified.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by oldstrings

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>Large groups like the Rakes of Kildare and the Rakes of Mallow are, of course, disqualified.


There's also the Rakes In My Basement. But they're not much use except in the fall.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by sts

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Me.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by mehitabel23

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Rakish Paddy and I make a good pair.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by mehitabel23

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Let me lick my eyebrows and give this some thought.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by jwvansteenwyk

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Sorry, still awaiting the onset of puberty. [ twiddles thumbs]Even so, should a gentleman ask such things? Would a gentleman answer?

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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Gentleman? Have you read this board? There aren't any gentlemen here.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Marklar

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Ahem!

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Trevor Jennings

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Ok, I gave it some thought.

Modesty precludes me from further elaborating.


# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by jwvansteenwyk

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Screetch, I never said I was a gentleman, just mouthing the hypotheticals that any gentleman would have mastered by now anyway. He would have paused at this thread, silently thought to himself some lesson from his parents, and moved on to something more seemly. Well he's gone now, the coast is clear.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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Paul McCartney. Who says he's not trad - "Mull Of Kintyre..."?!

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by nicholas

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Does this mean that you and Paul McCartney um, were um, you know?

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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If your oath as a gentleman binds you from responding, why did you drop that bombshell in the first place?

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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Think of your oath as a fabulist!

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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Male or Female???

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by banjobabe

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ok this thread has the potential to get pretty dirty. especially if I bring up the importance of good wrist action!!

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by session savage

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G-string action in particular

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by mehitabel23

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Paul McCartney and I are innocent of one another's acquaintance, and I was being ironic.

But I suppose the Mull of Kintyre *does* look somewhat like a thingy.

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by nicholas

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The Bed Breaker. (Whoever that is).

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by pennhorse

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Good morning everyone. After sober reflection, I want to ask all the fabulists not to pile on this one. Please move on to another thread. Now, Mull of Kintyre? [Takes out map of Scotland]

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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Old strings, did you really want people posting made-up stories of how they'd had it off with "So and So? I should have consulted you first, before presuming to order your thread around. Beg Pardon.

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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Tootey of course :-)

# Posted on July 5th 2008 by bazouki dave

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Atahualpa Quigley, I thought a "fabulist" was one of the Technomages from Babylon Five.

# Posted on July 6th 2008 by fauxcelt

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Hey faucelt. Is anyone else out there with you? It gets pretty lonely here on this particular thread. [stands up, listens for sound out in the corridor] Nope, nobody. It's just me and all the porcelain fixtures. [sits back down, pulls out a cigarette] Yah, that's right. I'm going to light up. So they expel me? Big deal.

# Posted on July 6th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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Whoever the guy is who wrote Sheebeg an ............

# Posted on July 7th 2008 by hauke

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Atahualpa Quigley, I'm not really bothered what anyone does with this thread. I was only trying to put an end to the "What/Who/Where is the best" threads by being sillier still.

# Posted on July 7th 2008 by oldstrings

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I have deep suspicions about Quigley, could be one of the Quigleys who inhabited the Greengate Hotel in Killara or a Quigley from a parallel universe. Watch out, they're everywhere.

# Posted on July 7th 2008 by mcknowall

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Atahualpa Quigley I am not alone.
Besides my wife, there are also some other musicians here in Arkansas who are members of this web site.
Since none of them have commented on this discussion, I guess they either must think this discussion is too silly for them or they just haven't made the mistake of reading it yet.

# Posted on July 7th 2008 by fauxcelt

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I have deep suspicions about you too, mcknowall. Now, do you have a lighter or some matches?

# Posted on July 7th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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You are not alone either, Atahualpa Quigley.
I have shallow suspicions about everybody.
Since my wife smokes, she might let you borrow a light for your cigarette.

# Posted on July 7th 2008 by fauxcelt

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Besides being shallow, my suspicions are also sneaky whether or not they are wearing sneakers.

# Posted on July 8th 2008 by fauxcelt

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fauxcelt, did you spend the entire day in here? That's how the janitor described it . Don't tell me you only came in here to think. Sooner or later, you have to go out there, buddy. There are some great theads today. Most of the kids are nice, and won't hit. Well, maybe not some of the Irish, and several of the Australians. The rest are real friendly, though, or will leave you alone.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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fauxcelt, this place isn't at all like an American institution. They aren't interested in fostering an atmosphere of boredom, stress, and fear. Don't worry about the Australians: they only come out at night. Paradoxically they say the same thing about us, with considerable gratitude. It's a more or less permanent, and inflexible truce. Pretty cool!

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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oldstrings said "I was only trying to put an end to the "What/Who/Where is the best" threads by being sillier still."

I think you are onto a hopeless task, oldstrings. How to cure silliness or banish it ? I'm not against Americans, or any other nationality for that matter. But I am against stupidity. I mean, education and intelligence and a thoughtful caring attitude can't fix all our problems, or even most of our problems. But stupidity and ignorance can certainly make any problem a lot worse...

http://www.alternet.org/democracy/90161/

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by wolfbird

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hhahhaa Quigly - typical! Start slagging the australians why dont you. You probably have never met an aussie in your life, you probably wouldnt know one if they smacked you in your forehead.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by bb

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Guernsey Pete, I don't think one needs testimonials. The ladies can participate, too.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by feardearg

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Morning all. In as much as this has become a sort of hospitality suite hosted by Americans: YOU'RE VERY WELCOME! Come in, and let your hair down. wolfbird, rip into Americans with every thing you've got. If buffoonery bugs you, well, all I can say in defense of my buffoonery is that I aim for the same effect the Russian clown/monks are going for. Most of the time, I miss. Cruella, my run-ins with Australians have pretty much been a blast! I only hope they got as much fun back.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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Good morning to you too.
Quigley, you don't seem to have been around on this board long enough to have had run-ins with Australians. Please explain, do.
Your syntax doesn't ring a bell either, so maybe you are new.

"Mr Quigley (NOT his real name) is a US born piper living in the vicinity of San Jose, California."

OK! "a US born piper living in the vicinity of San Jose, California".
Proud to be a US piper, Quigley, very good.
San Jose! Yes, that's California isn't it.
Very good.
Have a nice day.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh

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Duijera Dubh, Pleased to make your aquaintace. Yes, I'm a new-comer, and what's worse an obstreperous, American, newcomer. On their travels through America, the Australians whom I've met, seldom with-held any criticism of Americans, and our country. Australians have given us some of the best disparagement I've ever heard; usually with an admixture of humor, but not always. Go for it! With-hold the humor if you like. It'll do us both good. I'm no chauvenist about America. I was born here, period. There is a San Jose in Costa Rica too.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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`Best' in that it was both brathtakingly colorful, and right on the money. I will hold you to the lofty standard which they set.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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Instead of spending my entire day inside this web site, I usually spend my days at my day job at the hospital where I am employed as a Medical Support Assistant. I like to jokingly describe this hospital as my home-away-from-home. If I am not too busy, I can go to The Session and read the discussions while I am at work.
I have had the pleasure of meeting a few Australians on my way through life and playing music with them.
Wolfbird, I agree with your comments. After working on this for several years, I think I may finally have achieved the proper balance and found an equilibrium point between silliness and seriousness.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by fauxcelt

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I hope you're not blaming me for your equilibrium, fauxcelt ,
I really don't want to be held responsible ;-)

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by wolfbird

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No one is impugning your work, or your work ethic, Fauxcelt. Far from it. But didn't you chuckle at the thought of yourself holed up in some refuge in a cyber school. No? Oh well, missed the mark again. It was a big problem for me, back when I was a youngster. Anyway, break time is over. All the best.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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In all too real school, I mean.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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back when I was a youngster, in all too very real school. Anyway, a famous Australian who posts here allows as how he feels like a kid back in school again when he participates on the mustard board.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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No,wolfbird, the only person to blame for myself finally achieving an equilibrium or balance point is myself and I do hereby accept full responsibility for it.
I didn't feel as if you were trying to "impugn" my work ethic Atahualpa Quigley. There are some nurses at this hospital who won't work with me because they don't like my work ethic. Either that or they don't think I am as smart as they are because I haven't been to nursing school and am not interested in becoming a nurse.
I have been working as an MSA for eleven years and by now I have worked in every unit and ward in this hospital on every shift and am acquainted with most of the nurses who work here.
When I started working as an MSA, I was a 'floater" who had to work here, there, and everywhere. When I got tired of that, I applied for the MSA position in the telemetry/stepdown unit and worked there for four years before I transferred to the MICU where I work now. I like working in the MICU and will probably stay here until I retire.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by fauxcelt

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Thanks, fauxcelt. Ain't no one ever going to call you a kid; me, least of all. Take care.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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I've heard it said before by Americans living here, Quigley, that the Aussies give the Yanks a bit of stick. Never know why really. Curious. Australians, in my observation dont' seem to give the same sort of stick to the Chinese, Japanese, French, or anyone else really except other first-language English speaking countries. Very interesting. Maybe something to do with reactions to various accents, and politics to an extent.

Not all Australians, in my experience, give stick to the yanks. Although anglo Aussie culture and world view seems (to me anyway) to be formed historically from an English working class type perspective, Aussies seem to give more stick to the poms rather than the yanks. Apart from a much less capitalist outlook than the yanks seem to have, Aussies seem to have a lot in common with the Americans and find that culture increasingly a natural fit as Australia evolves.

Personally, I have generally always found dealings and conversations with Americans very cordial. Pretty easy to get along with, I always thought, and a lot less hierarchical than 'others'.

And Quigley, when you hear those particular Aussies going through American giving stick, just say to them that they sound like they vote for the Liberal Party, or they sound like New Zealanders. That should give you a bit of breathing space while they recoup ;-)

# Posted on July 10th 2008 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh

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On the other hand, Quigley, if you're obstreperous, that might account for why you were getting grief from Australians.
That'll do it, for sure.

# Posted on July 10th 2008 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh

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My wife warned me, before I came to Oz, that I'd cop a lot of .... whatever
... from the Ozzies. But strangely enough it never happened - unless it
all went over my head, being so subtle ... naw! Australians ain't subtle.
On the contrary I have found Australians to have a strangely positive
view of Americans. They don't think much of the French though ....

# Posted on July 10th 2008 by Hup

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Duijera Dubh, Thank you for your answer. I regret my obstreperousnes. You are of course welcome to have a go at me or any other American. You would be even more welcome to just simply write about life in Australia. I'm not realy interested in the unflattering stuff. Lots of us are crazy about Australia; an effect brought about by Australian visitors here more than anything else. ARE THEY HAND PICKED BY YOUR GOVERNMENT? Brown nosing is not my style, and this aint it. Are we square on that?

# Posted on July 10th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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PS There was one piper from New Zealand who came out our way almost twenty years ago. From our limited perspective, we could easily have mistaken him to be Australian. Face it, you have qualities in comon. Or again, it's just sharing the same standards of export grade.

# Posted on July 10th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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PPS How does your pipe bag behave in the hot weather? It was one hundred degrees F in the house today. God knows what the temperature was outside. Sound a bit like your world six months ago?

# Posted on July 10th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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Hup, yes, the Aussies don't seem to like the French doing atom bomb testing in the Pacific, etc., that seems to be the main gripe, but otherwise I think they like the French people and culture. But don't you notice, that even if Aussies didn't like the French Government or whoever, they are far less vocal having a go at them than they are at the poms for example. It seems a strange phenomenon to me, not entirely inexplicable, but strange nonetheless.
And Hup, if you're living in Canberra, there might be a different take on things like that there, than maybe in other parts of Oz. Canberra is a little different, don't you think?

Despite what some here might think, I am generally not inclined to 'have a go' at anyone really, least of all do I find any reason to with Americans for some reason. Generally, like most Australians I am guessing, we get really p*ssed about people making disparaging comments about us or our country unfairly, or from ignorance, well-founded criticism aside. There is scope for that in relation to Australia, like anywhere else.
We're both not brown-nosing, Quigley, that's understood. I wouldn't imagine it would be your style at all anyway.

Re the Kiwis - yes, you will no doubt easily mistake NZers for Aussies, because to you the accents will sound the same.
There are similarities of culture sure, but there are some pretty big differences that might only be apparent to the two parties here. I've heard it stems around Aussies' penchant for egalitarianism, whereas NZers (anglo ones more likely) might tend to have a more 'hierarchical, class-conscious' view of the world. That's what I've heard anyway. Again, I've never had a problem with NZers, but they seem a little less 'relaxed' than Aussies for want of a more detailed description I guess.
The difference might approximate to you the difference between Americans and Canadians, except that Aussies might be a lot less 'republican' in their ethos than the yanks, even the democrat ones! Then again, I've heard that Aussies get on particularly well with the Canadians too. That wouldn't surprise though probably.

Pipe bag? That's not so much a problem as the reed imo!
Big problems with that in the heat I think. If there are problems with the bags here in the heat, maybe they should make them out of kangaroo skin, like some bodhrans are here (McKnowall's - excellent stuff.) Kangaroo skin copes really well with the heat.
We're a bit used to 100F type temps, Quigley, not overly phased because our lowest temps in winter are a bit like a reasonable summer day in northern climes. Thereabouts anyway.
And the Aussie tourists - hmm, they might be hand picked by the Government for export, but I tend to think, it's just my opinion, that a lot of young Aussies travelling overseas sort of do the "Aussie" thing to an extent that a lot of actually don't do at home. Maybe you tend to see a fair bit of manufactured stereotyping. Dunno, but it might be.


# Posted on July 10th 2008 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh

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As for being called a kid or mistaken for one, I still had to provide proof of my age when I was thirty-one so I could enter a bar. Yes, at the time, I did look younger than my chronological age of thirty-one. Now that my hair is finally changing color from brown to gray, I actually look like I am forty-nine.
The summers here in Arkansas are hot and humid. Although the actual temperature rarely gets higher than one hundred degrees (Fahrenheit), the humidity is still high enough to make us feel miserably hot and uncomfortable. Is this also true in Australia?
Since there are a lot of doctors who come here from other countries to do some of their post-graduate training, I have had many opportunities to learn about other countries by talking to them.
No, I haven't worked with anyone from Australia yet but I did get to work with a man from New Zealand who was planning to be a Nephrologist. He came here for advanced training on dialysis and how it applies to renal and kidney functions.

# Posted on July 10th 2008 by fauxcelt

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Bah. Hot? Steamy? There's nothing quite like a Florida summer my friends, let me tell ya. ;-)

# Posted on July 10th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler

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Have you ever been in New Orleans during the summer? This was in August 1982. I was just passing through on a Greyhound bus and had to change buses in New Orleans. Since I had to wait an hour or two for the bus that would take me away from New Orleans, I took a ride on the St. Charles Avenue streetcar/trolley line while I was waiting.

# Posted on July 10th 2008 by fauxcelt

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Steve Shaw, prophets aren't dishonorable unless you have earned the money through sick eagle (illegal) activities.

# Posted on July 10th 2008 by fauxcelt

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Hup, Duijera Dubh, Fauxcelt, and SWFL Fiddler, thanks for your responses. So its all an act, then? [Winks] As stereotypes go, there are far worse ones than the conventionally accepted stereotype of `Ausie' . It can't be too very awful to be confined in such a persona. I don't want to hear about the heartbreak of your private moments! [Winks twice] This has been fun.

# Posted on July 10th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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PS Duijera Dubh, or Hup, do either of you know an Australian piper by the name of Hunter Lee? I think he's Australian. I'm quite content to go on adding our odd ramblings to this thread if you are.

# Posted on July 10th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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In my case, it isn't an act. I am trying to be myself (whoever that is). I will let you know when I have figured it out.
There are times when I feel like the stereotypical square peg whom some fool is trying to fit into a round hole which I was never designed to fit into in the first place (or second place or third place or whatever).
Even though I play two atypical, non-traditional instruments, I try not to be too traditional or typical.

# Posted on July 10th 2008 by fauxcelt

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At least you have music, fauxcelt. Is there such a thing as an Arkansan stereotype yet; either good or bad? Tennesseeans may have one. Texans definitely have one. Their's is pretty well sealed in concrete, poor souls. Arkansans are free to be anything they d@mned well please!

# Posted on July 11th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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Who needs an Arkansan stereotype when they have (had) Bill Clinton?

# Posted on July 11th 2008 by wyogal

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But, who am I to point fingers? We have Dick Cheney!

# Posted on July 11th 2008 by wyogal

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Hey wyogal, we gave Nixon to the nation. We console ourselves by saying Dick was from S California, not from here in the middle. Still painfull, though.

# Posted on July 11th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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Haven't heard of Hunter Lee.
What makes you think he's Australian.
With a name like that, he sounds like he from Arkansas or somewhere down there. :-)

# Posted on July 11th 2008 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh

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Don't tell me your'e one and the same! Nah, it couldn't be! Just don't tell me anything either way. I like the suspense. Did you get to meet Judith Durham? No, don't tell me. Don't tell me.

# Posted on July 11th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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Ok, I won't tell you.

# Posted on July 11th 2008 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh

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Fine. just as well. We can procede to torture you by asking you endless questions about Henry Lawson, the man and his poetry; then ask you to contrast him with Paterson. We don't have to go this route.

# Posted on July 11th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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Ahhh!! My favorite topic. Wow! WHAT a coincidence!
It's a really just exemplar of the differences, even today, in various political polarities in Australia, and helps a lot to decipher Australians.
I thought you never ask!
:-)

# Posted on July 11th 2008 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh

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It was all a bluff anyway. Our library hasn't any Lawson, and not a whole lot of Paterson. Well, just " Snowy River" Still, your thoughts on the subject would be very welcome. No joke.

# Posted on July 11th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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I know, I know it was a bluff.
*But*, it is still a handy topic to sort out where this country is coming from.
It's ironic that your library doesn't have any Lawson, but Paterson - and the sort of Paterson ie Man From Snowy River.

Iconic outdoorsy rural based heroic stuff that one. The equivalent of your plains lore stuff. That's what Paterson liked, although he was a city lawyer and couldn't stand it. Paterson wrote Waltzing Matilda you know? Well, he wrote the words I think together with the daugher of a station owner (a rancher to you) that he was visiting at the time. She played piano very well (as daugthers of station owners were won't to do in those days), and she used an old Scottish air which is the tune of Waltzing Matida, the 'unofficial' Australian national anthem, or at least the one which moves people a lot more than 'Advance Australia Fair'.

Lawson is known as the working man's poet. Lived in the city, drank a lot, left wing politics. Many think Lawson gets to the nity gritty issues of life a lot more than Paterson, probably because Lawson might have been more involved in the nitty gritty of life, because he had a very hard life apparently.

They were from different worlds and 'classes' although that latter term isn't really used to describe such differences in Australia as far as I can see. It is a distasteful terminology I think, to Australians.

Why do you think your library doesn't have any Lawson?

# Posted on July 11th 2008 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh

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True story for you - about twenty years ago, I was invited by a work colleague to go along to a writers' function one afternoon.
Henry Lawson's grand daugther was to be there, so I thought that would be a fairly historic occasion to go to.

There she was, a little old lady, must have been around 90 or so, they had her sitting up in front of the audience. Not very mobile, but her mind was still quick, I thought. Didn't say anything, looked a bit pensive, a bit sad.

She was just looking slowly around the audience from face to face while someone was reading out something.

She looked a lot like Henry Lawson from pictures I've seen. I was thinking of that and about what he must have been like and what she must be like, and then her gaze reached mine and she just stopped and looked at me. Expression unchanged, and she just looked. The same big brown eyes as Lawson had, the same kind, sad, analytical, peaceful, very genuine, very old world sort of look that he had, and a lot of people were generally like back then. Very nice lady.

Then she moved on to gaze around the room again. She'd be gone now along with all of that world.
I have no idea what was being read that day in that room, but I will never forget it.


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# Posted on July 11th 2008 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh

Re: Who do you think is the best tradmusicplaying lover of our time?

Because we're far away in California, and a tad parochial. Can you sugest a title/titles? He must still be in print in Australia. If so, Amazon would have some offerings. I did hear it said by another of your countrymen, that "Paterson told the romance; Lawson told the truth" I'll accept your say-so as confirmation of this.

# Posted on July 11th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

Re: Who do you think is the best tradmusicplaying lover of our time?

Paterson may not have noticed things in quite that way. That's the difference to me anyway. He was a very good and pleasant person too though.

# Posted on July 11th 2008 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh

Re: Who do you think is the best tradmusicplaying lover of our time?

"Paterson told the romance, Lawson told the truth".
Nice summary.

# Posted on July 11th 2008 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh

Re: Who do you think is the best tradmusicplaying lover of our time?

I don't think it is because of "parochiality" that they don'[t have Lawson. Maybe it is because of the difference in political *shift* between Australia and US. Paterson would seem to me to be more easily *accommodated* in US literary culture than Lawson.

Anyway, here is a site that has all of Lawson's poetry which you can access without cost. Happy reading (although, Lawson isn't exactly known for light-hearted poetry - as Paterson was always pointing out.)

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~natinfo@ozemail.com.au/lawson/

# Posted on July 11th 2008 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh

Re: Who do you think is the best tradmusicplaying lover of our time?

It's actually a list of all his poems, with a selection that can be accessed at the site.

# Posted on July 11th 2008 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh

Re: Who do you think is the best tradmusicplaying lover of our time?

Seems to me, what I got, in this exchange, was way better than what I gave. Thank you

# Posted on July 11th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

Re: Who do you think is the best tradmusicplaying lover of our time?

You're welcome.

# Posted on July 11th 2008 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh

Re: Who do you think is the best tradmusicplaying lover of our time?

The stereotypical Arkansan would probably be somewhat schizophrenic due to geography. Not only is Arkansas on the dividing line between the Southern and the Western parts of the United States, if you draw a line from the northeast corner of Arkansas to the southwestern corner of Arkansas, there is a distinct geographical and geological divide between the two halves of this state.
To the southeast of this line, the land is mostly flat and/or gently rolling. Part of this area is the famous Delta which is supposed to be some of the best farmland in the United States. The rest of this area is famous for oil wells and growing trees as well as good hunting and fishing.
To the northwest of this line, however, the land is very hilly and mountainous with thin, rocky soil. A lot of this part of Arkansas is part of one National Forest area or another. The people who live in this part of Arkansas are more likely to try to raise animals such as cattle or horses or sheep or goats instead of growing crops. There are many good hiking, biking, and/or horse trails in the National Forest areas as well as a few of the artificial lakes called reservoirs.
Since I have lived in Arkansas for most of the time that Bill Clinton was either Attorney General or Governor of Arkansas, I have heard a few jokes about him. Would you like to read the jokes?

# Posted on July 11th 2008 by fauxcelt

Re: Who do you think is the best tradmusicplaying lover of our time?

Poetry by Henry Lawson mixed together with Bill Clinton jokes. What a feast! Go for it fauxcelt!

# Posted on July 11th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

Re: Who do you think is the best tradmusicplaying lover of our time?

You are a brave, foolhardy, and masochistic person Atahualpa Quigley.
First of all.....Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas for so many years that we thought he intended to be Governor-For-Life so we persuaded him to try to run for President. We didn't think he would succeed but by now you know how mistaken we were.
(there are rumors that Gennifer Flowers wasn't Clinton's only girlfriend/mistress)
During his first campaign for President in 1992, Bill and Hillary Clinton celebrated their sixteenth wedding anniversary in February 1992. Someone jokingly suggested that you could send the Clintons anything except "Flowers" for their anniversary.
Hillary probably hopes that Bill practiced safe sax with Gennifer Flowers and Monica Lewinsky and all those other women.
And, In Conclusion (to quote one of the most infamous things Bill Clinton ever said on television before he became President), when Hillary decided to forgive Bill for cheating on her, what did she send him? Why, "Flowers', of course.

# Posted on July 11th 2008 by fauxcelt

Re: Who do you think is the best tradmusicplaying lover of our time?

We've wandered a long, and painfull way from Trad today. I'm sorry, but I'll stick to reading Lawson at break-times. Now get back to work.

# Posted on July 11th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

Re: Who do you think is the best tradmusicplaying lover of our time?

I thought the idea behind this thread of discussion was to be as silly, ridiculous, tacky, and socially irresponsible as possible.
My wife says I am a good lover but this unfortunate woman is so deluded that she actually thinks she has found one of those "good men" who supposedly are so hard to find. One day she will recover from her delusion but not yet.

# Posted on July 12th 2008 by fauxcelt

Re: Who do you think is the best tradmusicplaying lover of our time?

That was the idea behind this thread. Only, they did'nt reckon as how they were going to be stuck with us. This hospitality suite is now a quarantine shed. Word from on high is that we're to stay the full forty days; then on day fotry-one, douse all lights and cooking fires. We are then to proceed out the door, lock it, and return the key. They don't care where we go after that.

# Posted on July 12th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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