Whats with all this nicey nicey stuff with fiddles latelY? Whats this dark tone crap? This softy softy gut sound is wrenching my gut... its like my addiction to chiles... I NEED I NEED I NEED to hear that treble instrument speak! And this groovy woovy garbage... what in hell is this computer mimicing jazzy flat lined heart monitor stuff that sounds like a midi mcgoldrick poisoning my brain? Take your suzuki classic gut stringed eco-polluter and throw it in the river and pee on it.
We had a French teacher at school named McCracken. He too had a very similar command of language when cussing us little morons he was trying to teach French to. In today's wimpy teaching environment he would have been fired.
There are times that Ive listened to Kevin Burke or Johnny Doran and enter the most pleasnt mental state... when Kevin saws down on his e string without fear, I am taken to a higher place... when the pipes flow like river through the hills, that's when i am at peace.... they don't teach that in suzuki... its hum drum-- 1234--- beats that are enough to strangle any dog... no soul, no lilt, no smell o fthe turf or flesh and blood... just modernmcgoldrickedmidi sh*t that is like bad wall paper stinking up a once inhabitable space.
Funny you should mention Mr Burke - he has an antiseptic sound now -
just like what you're complaining about. That's based on the only time
I've heard him live - promoting a recent album.
it probably depends on the gig too what approach he takes.
I don't mean to bash the great man - rather I'm trying to get you to better define what it is that you don't like?
I'll bet you _hate_ Renegade (Sharon Shannon's new outfit)
Each to their own i guess... there are a lot of members here that would consider Kevin's playing along the same line as McGoldrick.
Don't get me wrong... I love Kevins playing... but would much prefer to listen to players like Siobhan Peoples, Jesse Smith or Paul O'Shaughnessy for that raw passion you're looking for.
And I'm currently using heavy Helicores on one of my fiddles. It seems to be the best way to get through 4 or 5 boxes going at full throttle in my English session
You know, I think that the too-clean sound in recordings can often be blamed on reverb/echo rather than the fiddler. I don't like that stuff in trad recordings.
Sometimes sound engineers don't know when to leave well enough alone. Classical violin sounds great that way but it's not so good for fiddles.
Fiddle is not "pretty". If you're sacrificing volume and rhythm to sound "pretty" you're missing the point. Maybe you need to put down the fiddle for a while, meet an attractive member of whatever gender you prefer, have a torrid but ultimately futile affair, drink more than is good for you, spend some time in the countryside alone...maybe you'll start to get where fiddle sound, real fiddle sound comes from. They don't teach it in conservatories.
>Also may I recommend backbreaking manual labor of some kind as an occupation?
I wouldn't. I've done it, it's crap. I recommend be lazy and squander your life away by coming on here and writing a load of sh!te. Better fun.
Wimpy Fiddles
Wimpy Fiddles
Whats with all this nicey nicey stuff with fiddles latelY? Whats this dark tone crap? This softy softy gut sound is wrenching my gut... its like my addiction to chiles... I NEED I NEED I NEED to hear that treble instrument speak! And this groovy woovy garbage... what in hell is this computer mimicing jazzy flat lined heart monitor stuff that sounds like a midi mcgoldrick poisoning my brain? Take your suzuki classic gut stringed eco-polluter and throw it in the river and pee on it.
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by McCracken
Re: Wimpy Fiddles
YARG!
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Wimpy Fiddles
Actually, I need to read what you said more closely, I just felt like yelling along with ya. One sec.
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
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OK, I still don't get it, sorry man. You got examples of what you don't like? The whole Celtic New Age thing?
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
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I think that was worth reading just for the literary content. It's like Burns or Chaucer though - great fun to read, but no idea what it means...
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by Joe CSS
Re: Wimpy Fiddles
Wow! Is there anything you DO like?
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by davydd
Re: Wimpy Fiddles
I believe in the second line he mentions an addiction to chiles. I guess that could qualify as a "like".
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by leoj
Re: Wimpy Fiddles
We had a French teacher at school named McCracken. He too had a very similar command of language when cussing us little morons he was trying to teach French to. In today's wimpy teaching environment he would have been fired.
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by Trevor Jennings
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There are times that Ive listened to Kevin Burke or Johnny Doran and enter the most pleasnt mental state... when Kevin saws down on his e string without fear, I am taken to a higher place... when the pipes flow like river through the hills, that's when i am at peace.... they don't teach that in suzuki... its hum drum-- 1234--- beats that are enough to strangle any dog... no soul, no lilt, no smell o fthe turf or flesh and blood... just modernmcgoldrickedmidi sh*t that is like bad wall paper stinking up a once inhabitable space.
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by McCracken
Re: Wimpy Fiddles
Ah, those were the days
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by Trevor Jennings
Re: Wimpy Fiddles
Funny you should mention Mr Burke - he has an antiseptic sound now -
just like what you're complaining about. That's based on the only time
I've heard him live - promoting a recent album.
it probably depends on the gig too what approach he takes.
I don't mean to bash the great man - rather I'm trying to get you to better define what it is that you don't like?
I'll bet you _hate_ Renegade (Sharon Shannon's new outfit)
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by Hup
Re: Wimpy Fiddles
Each to their own i guess... there are a lot of members here that would consider Kevin's playing along the same line as McGoldrick.
Don't get me wrong... I love Kevins playing... but would much prefer to listen to players like Siobhan Peoples, Jesse Smith or Paul O'Shaughnessy for that raw passion you're looking for.
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by davydd
Re: Wimpy Fiddles
Ah Hup... you beat me to it!
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by davydd
Re: Wimpy Fiddles
If it makes you feel any better, I just switched from gut to evahs. I'm very happy to know that I'm still bucking the trend.
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by Marklar
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Ah, I gotcha, you want the the dirt, the grime, aka 'raw passion', I hear ya. Didn't someone have a thread recently about bringing he nasty back?
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Wimpy Fiddles
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/17978
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Wimpy Fiddles
And I'm currently using heavy Helicores on one of my fiddles. It seems to be the best way to get through 4 or 5 boxes going at full throttle in my English session
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by Trevor Jennings
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Love your prosaic style McCracken but I do feel you may need a hug.
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by chuneboi slim
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I second that.
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by mutatis mutandis
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Wow, 'hound - a man of extremes!. The next stage is spirocore heavies
with a hidden wireless mike in your fiddle and a Marshall amp under the
table.
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by Hup
Re: Wimpy Fiddles
mccracken, have you ever heard brian rooney? i think hey has the scratchiest, tinniest, most wonderful sound i have ever heard on a fiddle.
http://www.claddaghrecords.com/www/music/mp3/spin1004/spin1004trk1.mp3
he has even tinnier tracks, too.
is this what you want, mr mc c?
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by daiv
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Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT2GW1JOBJc
Enjoy McC!
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by leoj
Re: Wimpy Fiddles
you want tinny, scratchy, squalling caterwaulling?
...I really should post something to SoundLantern then
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by Nate Ryan
Re: Wimpy Fiddles
Wonderful sound here (the opposite of mellow):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4OAkUN-m3A
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by RichardB
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"YARG!"
One of my favourite cheeses, that.
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by CreadurMawnOrganig
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Well thanks granama, ya learn something new every day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yarg
I just thought it was one of my favorite expressions for general excitement.
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Wimpy Fiddles
You know, I think that the too-clean sound in recordings can often be blamed on reverb/echo rather than the fiddler. I don't like that stuff in trad recordings.
Sometimes sound engineers don't know when to leave well enough alone. Classical violin sounds great that way but it's not so good for fiddles.
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by Marklar
Re: Wimpy Fiddles
Play loud!
I do dislike the skittery fiddle style that just sketches things in, and depends almost totally on amplification to be heard.
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by TomB-R
Re: Wimpy Fiddles
Wimpy fiddles?
What, like, does it have spicy beanburgers with cheese on top?
Or is it made by the Wimpy construction firm? Is it made out of MDF?
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by Rudall the time
Re: Wimpy Fiddles
Fiddle is not "pretty". If you're sacrificing volume and rhythm to sound "pretty" you're missing the point. Maybe you need to put down the fiddle for a while, meet an attractive member of whatever gender you prefer, have a torrid but ultimately futile affair, drink more than is good for you, spend some time in the countryside alone...maybe you'll start to get where fiddle sound, real fiddle sound comes from. They don't teach it in conservatories.
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by Seosamh Ui Sinan
Re: Wimpy Fiddles
Also may I recommend backbreaking manual labor of some kind as an occupation?
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by Seosamh Ui Sinan
Re: Wimpy Fiddles
McCracken, is your first name Phil?
# Posted on June 27th 2008 by boxedup
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>Also may I recommend backbreaking manual labor of some kind as an occupation?
I wouldn't. I've done it, it's crap. I recommend be lazy and squander your life away by coming on here and writing a load of sh!te. Better fun.
# Posted on June 28th 2008 by Rudall the time