Better still gill, since you're obviously such a whizz at learning tunes by ear why don't you do houlberg a favour and learn it, then submit it to the tune database here.
Given how much you spout about the importance of learning by ear you must be able to pick up tunes in a matter of seconds......
And wouldn't it be nice for houlberg to also learn that skill?
I for one appreciate Michael's more pleasant spin on his suggestion--indeed, why not learn it from the video? Even if the dots are available, it can be a lot of fun playing along and learning a tune by ear, even if just from a sound clip.
hey relax, I am about to learn it. But if everybody else plays it in a different key at sessions, then it's a waste of time learning it in C. Ha ha some of you guys just totally freak out when the word dot appear ha ha ha. Some tunes get picked up by ear, some do not, who gives a flying fart.
"But if everybody else plays it in a different key at sessions, then it's a waste of time learning it in C."
Maybe, maybe not. Anyway, you can use a software pitch shifter to change it to D.
Perhaps try to pretend you didn't know anything about him previously and read it again? I think our preconceived notions of him may be coloring our reading of his words.
I would simply add that regardless of the many great videos put on the Comhaltas site, often times the musicians themselves do not accurately know the name of the tune they are playing (as evidenced a few months ago when Joanie Madden said she was going to play The Whistling Postman but played The Old High Reel instead)
Furthermore I thought Llig was being helpful this time as well. Maybe we should all lighten up a bit ya?
I don't know whether or not this is a Paddy Fahey tune, or what key it is most commonly played in. So I'd rather not post the abcs in the tune section here.
Instead, here's my transcription of Damien McKee's playing, and a transposition into D.
X: 1
T: Paddy Fahey's
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
N: as played by Damien McKee, button accordion, http://comhaltas.ie/music/detail/comhaltaslive_260_3_damien_mckee/
K: C
G2 C EDC|EFG GEG|AFd BGg|efd e/e/ed|
ceC EDC|EFG GEG|AFd ~B3|1 ced cBA:|2 ced cgf||
ee/e/e cGC|EGc ecg|fFf dec|~B3 Ggf|
ee/e/e cGC EGc ecg|fFf dec|1 ~B3 cgf:|2 ~B3 cBA||
You're welcome, houlberg. My pleasure, really, cuz you posted the link to a great set of tunes by Mr. McKee. Much appreciated.
For what it's worth, the more you practice picking up tunes by ear (and I believe writing them down as you go along can help you listen more closely and understand better exactly what the player is doing), the easier it becomes. I've been doing this for decades, so it no longer feels difficult. And it's FUN.
Note that I made slight changes in the D transposition, mostly to make it fit better on fiddle (my main instrument).
I'll go post "Dingle David" now to the tune section....
"Some tunes get picked up by ear, some do not, who gives a flying fart." - HAHAHAHA this made my DAY!!! It reminded me how fragile we all are in space and time...
Actually the gibberish is older than Phil's Barfly program. It has some use ~ definitely not everyone's cup of tea.
I hear they use it to exchange tunes.
But I have been wrong about a lot of things.
;)
Heh, Ian, I learned abc notation only so I could share tunes easily by email and here at thesesh.org. But now I prefer it to the dots--you can jot down a snippet of tune on any piece of paper without drawing staves first, and the conventions are basically the same as sheet music, so it was very easy to learn. I do sometimes miss seeing the contours of the melody as shown by the dots, but lately I've noticed my vocal chords moving in sympathy to the case of the letters--going high for lowercase and low for uppercase. So apparently I'm starting to see the contours in abcs as well. Yikes...that must mean I need to close my eyes and just play.
Dots, Sir Bliss, are the little hard candy bits they sprinkle on ice cream because it doesn't already have enough sugar in it, and they can charge an extra $2.
Dots for this one
Dots for this one
http://comhaltas.ie/music/detail/comhaltaslive_260_3_damien_mckee/
The first tune called Paddy Fahy's. Cannot seem to find the same version here? Anybody know?
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by houlberg
Re: Dots for this one
It's not in the collection of his tunes that I've been posting from recently.
Chances are it's not one of Fahey's or it's a very new one written since 1995 when the thesis the tune collection is in was done.
I've never heard it before and it doesn't sound much like a Fahey tune to me.
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by The Tune Composer
Re: Dots for this one
Maybe you could try and have a go at learning it from the video?
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by llig leahcim
Re: Dots for this one
Better still gill, since you're obviously such a whizz at learning tunes by ear why don't you do houlberg a favour and learn it, then submit it to the tune database here.
Given how much you spout about the importance of learning by ear you must be able to pick up tunes in a matter of seconds......
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by The Tune Composer
Re: Dots for this one
Sigh.
And wouldn't it be nice for houlberg to also learn that skill?
I for one appreciate Michael's more pleasant spin on his suggestion--indeed, why not learn it from the video? Even if the dots are available, it can be a lot of fun playing along and learning a tune by ear, even if just from a sound clip.
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by Will Harmon
Re: Dots for this one
hey relax, I am about to learn it. But if everybody else plays it in a different key at sessions, then it's a waste of time learning it in C. Ha ha some of you guys just totally freak out when the word dot appear ha ha ha. Some tunes get picked up by ear, some do not, who gives a flying fart.
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by houlberg
Re: Dots for this one
Seriously, does the man need to give his dissertation every time he makes the point? He was perfectly polite, I thought.
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Dots for this one
Mr. llig, that is.
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Dots for this one
"But if everybody else plays it in a different key at sessions, then it's a waste of time learning it in C."
Maybe, maybe not. Anyway, you can use a software pitch shifter to change it to D.
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by Ramiro
Re: Dots for this one
Ok thanks for the replies, I should have asked: Is this really Paddy Fahys jig, and is it commonly played in the key of C.
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by houlberg
Re: Dots for this one
Gill's comment doesn't come across to me as polite, it comes across as patronising.
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by The Tune Composer
Re: Dots for this one
"Some tunes get picked up by ear, some do not, who gives a flying fart."
I couldn't have put it better myself.
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by The Tune Composer
Re: Dots for this one
Perhaps try to pretend you didn't know anything about him previously and read it again? I think our preconceived notions of him may be coloring our reading of his words.
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Dots for this one
I would simply add that regardless of the many great videos put on the Comhaltas site, often times the musicians themselves do not accurately know the name of the tune they are playing (as evidenced a few months ago when Joanie Madden said she was going to play The Whistling Postman but played The Old High Reel instead)
Furthermore I thought Llig was being helpful this time as well. Maybe we should all lighten up a bit ya?
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by Jusa Nutter Eejit
Re: Dots for this one
"Some tunes get picked up by ear, some do not, who gives a flying fart."
Smiled at that one myself
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by bogman
Re: Dots for this one
I don't know whether or not this is a Paddy Fahey tune, or what key it is most commonly played in. So I'd rather not post the abcs in the tune section here.
Instead, here's my transcription of Damien McKee's playing, and a transposition into D.
X: 1
T: Paddy Fahey's
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
N: as played by Damien McKee, button accordion, http://comhaltas.ie/music/detail/comhaltaslive_260_3_damien_mckee/
K: C
G2 C EDC|EFG GEG|AFd BGg|efd e/e/ed|
ceC EDC|EFG GEG|AFd ~B3|1 ced cBA:|2 ced cgf||
ee/e/e cGC|EGc ecg|fFf dec|~B3 Ggf|
ee/e/e cGC EGc ecg|fFf dec|1 ~B3 cgf:|2 ~B3 cBA||
X: 1
T: Paddy Fahey's
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
K:D
A2 D FED|FGA AFA|BGe cAa|fge f/f/fe|
dAD FED|FGA AFA|BGe ~c3|1 dfe dcB:|2 dfe dag||
~f3 dAD|FAd fda|~g3 efd|~c3 Aag|
ff/f/f dAD FAd fda|~g3 efd|1 ~c3 dag:|2 ~c3 dcB||
For tenor banjo or mandolin, houlberg, you can replace those rolls with triplets.
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by Will Harmon
Re: Dots for this one
Great thanks WILL CPT, that was a fast transcription. And it's right on the DOT. Og I said it again the word.... Anyway I am impressed..
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by houlberg
Re: Dots for this one
You're welcome, houlberg. My pleasure, really, cuz you posted the link to a great set of tunes by Mr. McKee. Much appreciated.
For what it's worth, the more you practice picking up tunes by ear (and I believe writing them down as you go along can help you listen more closely and understand better exactly what the player is doing), the easier it becomes. I've been doing this for decades, so it no longer feels difficult. And it's FUN.
Note that I made slight changes in the D transposition, mostly to make it fit better on fiddle (my main instrument).
I'll go post "Dingle David" now to the tune section....
Cheers
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by Will Harmon
Re: Dots for this one
Here's a transcription for Dingle David: http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/8655/
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by Will Harmon
Re: Dots for this one
"Some tunes get picked up by ear, some do not, who gives a flying fart." - HAHAHAHA this made my DAY!!! It reminded me how fragile we all are in space and time...
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by mehitabel23
Re: Dots for this one
That is mighty impressive Will! Here's what I know about ABC: You copy and then paste all that gibberish into Barfly, and it plays tunes.
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
Dots
Actually the gibberish is older than Phil's Barfly program. It has some use ~ definitely not everyone's cup of tea.
I hear they use it to exchange tunes.
But I have been wrong about a lot of things.
;)
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by Ben Steen
Re: Dots for this one
Heh, Ian, I learned abc notation only so I could share tunes easily by email and here at thesesh.org. But now I prefer it to the dots--you can jot down a snippet of tune on any piece of paper without drawing staves first, and the conventions are basically the same as sheet music, so it was very easy to learn. I do sometimes miss seeing the contours of the melody as shown by the dots, but lately I've noticed my vocal chords moving in sympathy to the case of the letters--going high for lowercase and low for uppercase. So apparently I'm starting to see the contours in abcs as well. Yikes...that must mean I need to close my eyes and just play.
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by Will Harmon
Re: Dots for this one
P.S. I like the notion of "impressive gibberish." That *is* what we do here, eh?
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by Will Harmon
Re: Dots on the forum
If you close your eyes when logged on it all becomes crystal clear.
A pint does the same.
After 3 it goes back to gbberish but you really don't care.
So it is Fahey?.
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by Ben Steen
Re: Dots for this one
My hat is off to you Will. My impressive gibberish skills are limited to words only. Well, that and when I mangle a tune really badly.
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Dots for this one
Ah, I too play IGM (Impressive Gibberish Music)....
# Posted on June 24th 2008 by Will Harmon
Re: Dots for this one
Right. I am fed up with all these stupid arguments.
What are "dots"?
# Posted on June 25th 2008 by bodhran bliss
Re: Dots for this one
And I am not as good as Mr Llig. It took me five minutes to learn the theme music from "Band of Brothers" on the mandolin.
Now that I can play the tune I need to ask the child what key it is in.
# Posted on June 25th 2008 by bodhran bliss
Re: Dots for this one
Dots, Sir Bliss, are the little hard candy bits they sprinkle on ice cream because it doesn't already have enough sugar in it, and they can charge an extra $2.
# Posted on June 25th 2008 by Will Harmon
Re: Dots for this one
Oh man, that means this whole time, I've been trying to learn this music from the sprinkles!
# Posted on June 25th 2008 by Reverend
Re: Dots for this one
...it's like reading tea leaves, eh?
# Posted on June 25th 2008 by Will Harmon
Re: Dots for this one
Gives a whole new meaning to "The Rocky Road to...."
[groan]
# Posted on June 25th 2008 by Will Harmon
Re: Dots for this one
Well, you folks have certainly made a 'Heavenly Hash' out of this thread.
# Posted on June 25th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler