The 19th century is often pointed to as a formative period in the style, repertoire, and instrumentation in ITM. (Like in this article, posted earlier: http://www.icmc2008.net/theme/trad )
Can the same be said about the current time period (perhaps more broadly, from the 1970's to the present)? In a hundred plus years, will articles refer to the music of the late 20th/early 21st centuries as having set new standards or introduced lasting effects, or is contemporary ITM in a phase that's less meaningful or lasting than that?
The author includes some 'modern day' bands such as the Bothy Band and Planxty in his piece. So you do not have to wait such a long time to find out if it will be the case.
However, I think the spreading power of the Internet as well as cd's and recordings from the past 20-30 years will of course be seen as a major influence on the spreading of trad music.
How dare you imply that this music is evolving in some way!
Don't you know it was created perfect on the Eighth Day complete with instruments and repertoire and session etiquette?
It is now how it has always has been and always will be.
Then of course you have the Bothie Band....nearly everyone else has tried to do a Bothy band on it. Its only fitting that in 20 years, some one will do a Dervish, someone else a Capercaille. (Though I hope to jaysus not)...
The biggest innovation over the last 40 years is surely the introduction or vastly increased use of a whole lot of instruments with plucked or strummed strings and their use to accompany or play melodies.
I doubt stage performances make up a significant part of this music. Emphasis is on pub sessions these days, but we sill have ceilis, and kitchen sessions too.
The era between the 1950s to the late 1970s, a period of mass migration from Ireland to UK, that period of Paddy in the Smoke, at the Favourite and other pubs, with various luminaries such as Bobby Casey, Martin Byrnes, Raymond Roland and so on, is sometimes referred to as the Golden Age of Irish music in London. How does this era impact the current generation of Irish music players? I don't know, really, but people often refer back to that Golden age. I suppose it laid the foundations of the present Irish music and session scene in London. Some might even argue that the first pub sessions were invented, or developed, in that era. If that were the case, then the impact of that era is both colossal and global, as evinced by the concomitant democratisation and the current global proliferation of such sessions.
Going on what I've heard (mainly Martin Byrnes on his album), that Golden Age was great. The then new technology of the tape-recorder and the LP helped to perpetuate and disseminate that music possibly like that of no ITM "Golden Age" before it, including music played in intimate sessions and not just in studios. It must have encouraged a lot of people to "catch on", starting sessions and learning the London tune-sets, quite fast.
Yes, jig, you are correct.
(said the man who has been reading science fiction most of his life and has met some of the men and women who write science fiction for a living.)
future impact of current trends?
future impact of current trends?
The 19th century is often pointed to as a formative period in the style, repertoire, and instrumentation in ITM. (Like in this article, posted earlier: http://www.icmc2008.net/theme/trad )
Can the same be said about the current time period (perhaps more broadly, from the 1970's to the present)? In a hundred plus years, will articles refer to the music of the late 20th/early 21st centuries as having set new standards or introduced lasting effects, or is contemporary ITM in a phase that's less meaningful or lasting than that?
# Posted on June 12th 2008 by mcswiss
Re: future impact of current trends?
Either we live in special times, or we don't. Either way, the thought is provocative, eh?
# Posted on June 12th 2008 by Will Harmon
Re: future impact of current trends?
If you can predict what will happen in a hundred years time can you tell me the lottery numbers for tomorrow ?
# Posted on June 12th 2008 by bazouki dave
Re: future impact of current trends?
The author includes some 'modern day' bands such as the Bothy Band and Planxty in his piece. So you do not have to wait such a long time to find out if it will be the case.
However, I think the spreading power of the Internet as well as cd's and recordings from the past 20-30 years will of course be seen as a major influence on the spreading of trad music.
# Posted on June 12th 2008 by Shylock
Re: future impact of current trends?
How dare you imply that this music is evolving in some way!
Don't you know it was created perfect on the Eighth Day complete with instruments and repertoire and session etiquette?
It is now how it has always has been and always will be.
# Posted on June 12th 2008 by yhaalhouse
Re: future impact of current trends?
Of course.
There are already bands out there trying to capture certain sounds. For example this one.
http://www.myspace.com/morgamusic
Can you hear the influences here?
Then of course you have the Bothie Band....nearly everyone else has tried to do a Bothy band on it. Its only fitting that in 20 years, some one will do a Dervish, someone else a Capercaille. (Though I hope to jaysus not)...
# Posted on June 12th 2008 by Hugo Chavez
Re: future impact of current trends?
The biggest innovation over the last 40 years is surely the introduction or vastly increased use of a whole lot of instruments with plucked or strummed strings and their use to accompany or play melodies.
# Posted on June 12th 2008 by nicholas
Re: future impact of current trends?
crikey, I just had a listen to the Morga. It's so so dull
# Posted on June 12th 2008 by llig leahcim
Re: future impact of current trends?
Ha...go on...elaborate
# Posted on June 12th 2008 by Hugo Chavez
Re: future impact of current trends?
I doubt stage performances make up a significant part of this music. Emphasis is on pub sessions these days, but we sill have ceilis, and kitchen sessions too.
# Posted on June 12th 2008 by slainte
Re: future impact of current trends?
The era between the 1950s to the late 1970s, a period of mass migration from Ireland to UK, that period of Paddy in the Smoke, at the Favourite and other pubs, with various luminaries such as Bobby Casey, Martin Byrnes, Raymond Roland and so on, is sometimes referred to as the Golden Age of Irish music in London. How does this era impact the current generation of Irish music players? I don't know, really, but people often refer back to that Golden age. I suppose it laid the foundations of the present Irish music and session scene in London. Some might even argue that the first pub sessions were invented, or developed, in that era. If that were the case, then the impact of that era is both colossal and global, as evinced by the concomitant democratisation and the current global proliferation of such sessions.
# Posted on June 12th 2008 by Rudall the time
Re: future impact of current trends?
Going on what I've heard (mainly Martin Byrnes on his album), that Golden Age was great. The then new technology of the tape-recorder and the LP helped to perpetuate and disseminate that music possibly like that of no ITM "Golden Age" before it, including music played in intimate sessions and not just in studios. It must have encouraged a lot of people to "catch on", starting sessions and learning the London tune-sets, quite fast.
# Posted on June 12th 2008 by nicholas
Re: future impact of current trends?
Predicting the future is a chancy and unpredictable business--just ask a science fiction writer and they will confirm that.
# Posted on June 12th 2008 by fauxcelt
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Still waiting for those lottery numbers
# Posted on June 12th 2008 by bazouki dave
Re: future impact of current trends?
those toyota musician robots will be the end of us all - seriously. didn't you see robocop? only a matter of time before they turn evil...
# Posted on June 12th 2008 by airport
Re: future impact of current trends?
Predicting the future is a chancy and unpredictable business--just ask a science fiction writer and they will confirm that.
they might, or they might not....
thats a risky prediction fauxcelt!
# Posted on June 12th 2008 by piobagusfidil
Re: future impact of current trends?
Yes, jig, you are correct.
(said the man who has been reading science fiction most of his life and has met some of the men and women who write science fiction for a living.)
# Posted on June 13th 2008 by fauxcelt