My friend, who has no experience of traditional music, asked me today:
"Hey Paddy, you have a lot of traditional music Cds, don't you?"
"Yes"
"Well could I have a lend of some because I'm starting to get into it ever since out visit to the archive place"
So I was delighted, even as random as it was. Can anyone recommend some bands or musicians for him that I could lend him. I don't think he'd quite understand the genius behind Finbarr Dwyer or John Carty musically so maybe some more 'universal' type players would be a better start. I was thinking of Lunasa and Martin Hayes etc but still amn't quite sure. Any ideas?
How about Mary McNamara on concertina or Tony MacMahons retrospective CD. Martin Hayes as you say, very lyrical .. but maybe your friend would be more into the group sound?
Definitely Lunasa, Teada, Bohola. Kevin Crawford's albums are great too. I'm sure there's other great music out there I have yet to discover (I'm a bit new to this genre too, so I'll be checking this post for recommendations)
Buy them the "Celtic Souls" boxed set- 10 CD's (for £8.72 inc. p&p- search on Amazon, then go to 'New & Used'> disctrade)-
This was flagged by ceolachan, slainte and others years ago, and though dubiously titled, is still a fantastic buy.
Individual CD's by John & James Kelly, Seamus Tansey, Finbarr Dwyer, Cherish The Ladies, and tracks by Sean McGuire, Joe Burke, Roger Sherlock, Brian Vallely etc.etc.- even the Armagh Pipers Club- who knows what might turn them on?
(No DO'D tracks among them, sadly, but, at that price you can't have everything.)
Hey PaddyC, maybe I missed it, but what was the “archive place” you visited? Apparently it triggered your friend’s interest. Sounds like you think hard core trad might be too strong of a medicine just yet, though.
So where is your friend coming from in terms of musical taste? Top Pop, Classic Rock, Lite Jazz, Late Baroque, Black Metal? Is he a musician himself?
It’s got to be a great feeling to be there to witness when someone actually gets an inkling of the greatness of this music.
Oh and Arcady “Many Happy Returns” is a great introductory album, too.
Rather than recommending individual bands or musicians an alternative suggestion would be to give your friend one of the better compilation albums on the market so that he can experience a broad range of music in one go.
I'd strongly recommend 'The Rough Guide to Irish Music (2nd edition)', released by World Music Network, or the new Nascente double CD 'Experience Ireland'.
Of course, this message is a blatant plug, but what the heck!
The first edition is the one to have, Mac (accept no substitutes)- and has been my bedside reading for 2 years, now. Who was that guy again?- Geoffrey someone- quite a writer, anyway. Wonder what became of him...
P-K, you're confusing the book 'The Rough Guide to Irish Music' with the World Music Network label's CDs of the same name, of which only the 2nd edition is now available - http://www.worldmusic.net.
Sadly, there'll never be a second edition of the book unless someone with more money than sense makes a direct offer.
Not sure what happened to 'Geoffrey' (I believe only his mother and his pet iguana Stanley are allowed to call him that), but I did hear a rumour that he was involved in a shakey-egg smuggling ring somewhere in Connaught).
but I'd second fidkid on Arcady's "Many Happy Returns" and the sheer exuberance of Ceili Bandits "Hangin at the Crossroads" will blow away any suspicions of tweeness
He's already into it, and just trying to rationalize the accompanying insanity. And since we're all rubbing our hands eagerly together, chortling "heh heh heh", and plotting the course for his downfall... a quick "best of" homespun cd suggested by Kleelch and FidDLeO1 is the sure route to snaring another convert... heh, heh, heh...
For a fiddler: Caoimhin o'Raghallaigh
For a piper: Brian MacNamara
For a concertina player: Migheal o'Raghallaigh
For an accordion player: Breanndan and Seamus Begley
For everyone: Star Above the Garter.
Thanks, Mac, for putting me right- shall seek out the CD forthwith.
Is there a future in shakey egg smuggling, btw?- am always looking for growth areas in which to invest.
Trying to get a friend into this music
Trying to get a friend into this music
My friend, who has no experience of traditional music, asked me today:
"Hey Paddy, you have a lot of traditional music Cds, don't you?"
"Yes"
"Well could I have a lend of some because I'm starting to get into it ever since out visit to the archive place"
So I was delighted, even as random as it was. Can anyone recommend some bands or musicians for him that I could lend him. I don't think he'd quite understand the genius behind Finbarr Dwyer or John Carty musically so maybe some more 'universal' type players would be a better start. I was thinking of Lunasa and Martin Hayes etc but still amn't quite sure. Any ideas?
# Posted on December 13th 2007 by 52Paddy
Re: Trying to get a friend into this music
How about Mary McNamara on concertina or Tony MacMahons retrospective CD. Martin Hayes as you say, very lyrical .. but maybe your friend would be more into the group sound?
# Posted on December 13th 2007 by the wounded hussar
Re: Trying to get a friend into this music
The Bothy Band, Altan, and Dervish?
# Posted on December 13th 2007 by slainte
Re: Trying to get a friend into this music
Planxty
# Posted on December 13th 2007 by fidkid
Re: Trying to get a friend into this music
As for duet recordings, how about classics like "Molloy, Brady, Peoples" and Molloy and Keane's "Contentment is Wealth"?
# Posted on December 13th 2007 by slainte
Re: Trying to get a friend into this music
Danú are also very good in this respect; also Téada or the Border Collies.
# Posted on December 13th 2007 by Bannerman
Re: Trying to get a friend into this music
Make your own greatest hits.
# Posted on December 13th 2007 by Kheelch
Re: Trying to get a friend into this music
Ah, but what do you mean by "traditional"?
Pardon?
Oh, sorry.
# Posted on December 13th 2007 by pfft
Re: Trying to get a friend into this music
Definitely Lunasa, Teada, Bohola. Kevin Crawford's albums are great too. I'm sure there's other great music out there I have yet to discover (I'm a bit new to this genre too, so I'll be checking this post for recommendations)
# Posted on December 13th 2007 by fuzzygreen
Re: Trying to get a friend into this music
Buy them the "Celtic Souls" boxed set- 10 CD's (for £8.72 inc. p&p- search on Amazon, then go to 'New & Used'> disctrade)-
This was flagged by ceolachan, slainte and others years ago, and though dubiously titled, is still a fantastic buy.
Individual CD's by John & James Kelly, Seamus Tansey, Finbarr Dwyer, Cherish The Ladies, and tracks by Sean McGuire, Joe Burke, Roger Sherlock, Brian Vallely etc.etc.- even the Armagh Pipers Club- who knows what might turn them on?
(No DO'D tracks among them, sadly, but, at that price you can't have everything.)
# Posted on December 13th 2007 by Here Lyeth
Re: Trying to get a friend into this music
Hey PaddyC, maybe I missed it, but what was the “archive place” you visited? Apparently it triggered your friend’s interest. Sounds like you think hard core trad might be too strong of a medicine just yet, though.
So where is your friend coming from in terms of musical taste? Top Pop, Classic Rock, Lite Jazz, Late Baroque, Black Metal? Is he a musician himself?
It’s got to be a great feeling to be there to witness when someone actually gets an inkling of the greatness of this music.
Oh and Arcady “Many Happy Returns” is a great introductory album, too.
# Posted on December 13th 2007 by fidkid
Re: Trying to get a friend into this music
I don't know how I forgot to suggest Stockton's Wing!
# Posted on December 13th 2007 by Bannerman
Re: Trying to get a friend into this music
Rather than recommending individual bands or musicians an alternative suggestion would be to give your friend one of the better compilation albums on the market so that he can experience a broad range of music in one go.
I'd strongly recommend 'The Rough Guide to Irish Music (2nd edition)', released by World Music Network, or the new Nascente double CD 'Experience Ireland'.
Of course, this message is a blatant plug, but what the heck!
# Posted on December 13th 2007 by MacCruiskeen
Re: Trying to get a friend into this music
The first edition is the one to have, Mac (accept no substitutes)- and has been my bedside reading for 2 years, now. Who was that guy again?- Geoffrey someone- quite a writer, anyway. Wonder what became of him...
# Posted on December 13th 2007 by Here Lyeth
Re: Trying to get a friend into this music
Make several mix CDs of the best tracks in your music library and have him tell you what he likes. Then give him the full albums.
# Posted on December 13th 2007 by fiddleplayer01
Re: Trying to get a friend into this music
P-K, you're confusing the book 'The Rough Guide to Irish Music' with the World Music Network label's CDs of the same name, of which only the 2nd edition is now available - http://www.worldmusic.net.
Sadly, there'll never be a second edition of the book unless someone with more money than sense makes a direct offer.
Not sure what happened to 'Geoffrey' (I believe only his mother and his pet iguana Stanley are allowed to call him that), but I did hear a rumour that he was involved in a shakey-egg smuggling ring somewhere in Connaught).
# Posted on December 13th 2007 by MacCruiskeen
Re: Trying to get a friend into this music
two great session cd's, Music at Matt Molloy's and Live at Mona's might set your friend on a 'do it yourself' path.
# Posted on December 13th 2007 by 'tinamatt
Re: Trying to get a friend into this music
Does your friend have access to the internet? Show him this. Not quite traditional but I do believe that is Matt Molloy on flute. ;>)
# Posted on December 14th 2007 by old and in the way
Re: Trying to get a friend into this music
Grand job, a compilation is the way to go but certainly Stockton's Wing, Planxty and "Molloy, Brady, Peoples" will get a fair share of tracks on it.
# Posted on December 14th 2007 by 52Paddy
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oops.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fP84z9nUcY
# Posted on December 14th 2007 by old and in the way
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sometimes trying to pick stuff that is "acceptable" backfires
My friends who were never into Irish music at all were converted on the spot by the pure pumping melodeon of Johnny Connolly
# Posted on December 14th 2007 by Bren
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but I'd second fidkid on Arcady's "Many Happy Returns" and the sheer exuberance of Ceili Bandits "Hangin at the Crossroads" will blow away any suspicions of tweeness
# Posted on December 14th 2007 by Bren
Re: Trying to get a friend into this music
He's already into it, and just trying to rationalize the accompanying insanity. And since we're all rubbing our hands eagerly together, chortling "heh heh heh", and plotting the course for his downfall... a quick "best of" homespun cd suggested by Kleelch and FidDLeO1 is the sure route to snaring another convert... heh, heh, heh...
# Posted on December 14th 2007 by drone
Re: Trying to get a friend into this music
For a fiddler: Caoimhin o'Raghallaigh
For a piper: Brian MacNamara
For a concertina player: Migheal o'Raghallaigh
For an accordion player: Breanndan and Seamus Begley
For everyone: Star Above the Garter.
--DtM
# Posted on December 14th 2007 by Dan the Man
Re: Trying to get a friend into this music
Paddy Glackin and Jolyon Jackson "Hidden Ground"
# Posted on December 14th 2007 by Greenwiggle
Re: Trying to get a friend into this music
send him to youtube. search bothy band
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgXwIIHAmaw
here's a link to my post with my favorite vids:
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/16050/comments#comment332867
# Posted on December 14th 2007 by daiv
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De Dannan!
"Hidden ground" is the sexiest record I've ever heard!
# Posted on December 14th 2007 by Hugo Chavez
Re: Trying to get a friend into this music
oooh hidden ground...
you gotta wait til he's ... conditioned ... to lay that badass on him
what about Hill and McMahon's at Knocnagcree album?
Molloy, Brady, Peoples too...
Could be worth calling in to the Archive again so he can have a browse.
Danny
# Posted on December 14th 2007 by diamondo
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Thanks, Mac, for putting me right- shall seek out the CD forthwith.
Is there a future in shakey egg smuggling, btw?- am always looking for growth areas in which to invest.
# Posted on December 14th 2007 by Here Lyeth
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Stating the obvious, maybe, but Altan's 'Horse With A Heart' ?
# Posted on December 14th 2007 by Here Lyeth
Re: Trying to get a friend into this music
Does your friend have access to the internet? Show him this. Not quite traditional but I do believe that is Matt Molloy on flute. ;>)
# Posted on December 14th 2007 by old and in the way
It is Mr Molloy. One of those girls is pretending to play a bodhran, fair enough, but I think it is an Eamon Maguire drum. Such a waste.
Tell your friend to get Bothy Band or Altan for a session sound.
# Posted on December 15th 2007 by bodhran bliss
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http://www.thesession.org/recordings/display/1826
# Posted on December 15th 2007 by Ben Steen