I've had no luck using the ABC search function in trying to find a jig I heard at session Sunday. I think the issue may be the large number of ways a similar phrase can be written in ABC.
The tune is a jig in G major, the first bar:
G roll E G D
Now, I've tried doing the G roll as ~G3 , as G3, and as G>GG all of which seem to be used by various people when writing tunes with G rolls in ABC. Are there other variants I'm missing? Thanks.
You can search on any phrase in the tune. I usually try to find two or 3 phrases that don't necessarily have any ornamentation. And I find that using the google search function (in the home tab) is more useful.
So, for instance, if I was searching for the Kesh Jig, I might type in:
edd gdd gfg aga
which is from two different parts of the tune, but pretty much going to be in every setting of the Kesh. That returns 3 jigs (and a couple of discussions). If I want to narrow it down a bit, I would type in:
"edd gdd" "gfg aga"
Which returns 1 jig (and a couple of discussions)...
So in your case, I would try ignoring the roll, and finding some other bits to try typing in.
ABC's can also be searched from TheSession HomePage
From the home page click search, enter the phrase enclosed w/quotation marks, & check the Web bubble.
This way you can enter things like ornamentation & note length;
"~G3 EGD"
This returns a Goggle search of ABC files from the entire Web.
Wurzel; in a perfect world (perfect web) tune submissions would be the raw form of a tune. Ornamentation & variations could all be posted under the Comments tab for a given tune.
Cheers!
I agree that a perfect world would be different than the one we live in, but welcome to reality
The other nice thing about the google search (as opposed to the normal tune search) is that it searches any ABC that is posted in the comments section of a tune as well.
So TheMuse, you and Wurzel could go through all 7703 tunes and take all the ornamentation out, post it in the comments, and just search that way!
Thanks for all the suggestions! I hadn't thought of using GFG for the G roll. But, the Roaring Barmaid is not the tune. I would use more fragments, but unfortunately I can't remember any more!
Thanks TheMuse!!! The Mouse In The Mug it is!
Strange that when I did a search using that exact first bar:
~G3 EGD that tune did not come up.
No, there's no tune list at the session, you just show up and play.
Thank you Mr. Cook. I checked that out. The search function under the Tunes 'Advanced' tab is different from the one on the home page. Try a search of TheSession from the home page. ~G3 EGD should return:
#1 Roaring Barmaid
#2 The Mouse in The Mug
#3 The Road to Skye
#4 The Maid on The Green ~G3 egd
trouble with ABC tune search
trouble with ABC tune search
I've had no luck using the ABC search function in trying to find a jig I heard at session Sunday. I think the issue may be the large number of ways a similar phrase can be written in ABC.
The tune is a jig in G major, the first bar:
G roll E G D
Now, I've tried doing the G roll as ~G3 , as G3, and as G>GG all of which seem to be used by various people when writing tunes with G rolls in ABC. Are there other variants I'm missing? Thanks.
# Posted on September 12th 2007 by Richard D Cook
Re: trouble with ABC tune search
You can search on any phrase in the tune. I usually try to find two or 3 phrases that don't necessarily have any ornamentation. And I find that using the google search function (in the home tab) is more useful.
So, for instance, if I was searching for the Kesh Jig, I might type in:
edd gdd gfg aga
which is from two different parts of the tune, but pretty much going to be in every setting of the Kesh. That returns 3 jigs (and a couple of discussions). If I want to narrow it down a bit, I would type in:
"edd gdd" "gfg aga"
Which returns 1 jig (and a couple of discussions)...
So in your case, I would try ignoring the roll, and finding some other bits to try typing in.
Pete
# Posted on September 12th 2007 by Reverend
Re: trouble with ABC tune search
Could this be it: http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display.php/91 ?
I tried GFG EGD.
# Posted on September 12th 2007 by GaryAMartin
Re: trouble with ABC tune search
I find it quite annoying that people have submitted tunes with the ornamentation in the ABC; it makes it harder to read.
# Posted on September 12th 2007 by Wurzel
Re: trouble with ABC tune search
ABC's can also be searched from TheSession HomePage
From the home page click search, enter the phrase enclosed w/quotation marks, & check the Web bubble.
This way you can enter things like ornamentation & note length;
"~G3 EGD"
This returns a Goggle search of ABC files from the entire Web.
# Posted on September 12th 2007 by Ben Steen
Re: trouble with ABC tune search
Wurzel; in a perfect world (perfect web) tune submissions would be the raw form of a tune. Ornamentation & variations could all be posted under the Comments tab for a given tune.
Cheers!
# Posted on September 12th 2007 by Ben Steen
Re: trouble with ABC tune search
I agree that a perfect world would be different than the one we live in, but welcome to reality
The other nice thing about the google search (as opposed to the normal tune search) is that it searches any ABC that is posted in the comments section of a tune as well.
So TheMuse, you and Wurzel could go through all 7703 tunes and take all the ornamentation out, post it in the comments, and just search that way!
Pete
# Posted on September 12th 2007 by Reverend
Re: trouble with ABC tune search
Thanks for all the suggestions! I hadn't thought of using GFG for the G roll. But, the Roaring Barmaid is not the tune. I would use more fragments, but unfortunately I can't remember any more!
# Posted on September 13th 2007 by Richard D Cook
Re: trouble with ABC tune search
Maybe "Have a Drink With Me"? http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display.php/1922 I can imagine substituting a G roll for the first half bar and slipping a G into the 2nd half.
# Posted on September 13th 2007 by GaryAMartin
Re: trouble with ABC tune search
Does that session have a list of tunes other than in everyone's head?
Going with your original here are a few possibilities;
The Mouse in the Mug
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/362
X: 1
T: Mouse In The Mug, The
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
R: jig
K: Gmaj
~G3 EGD | ~G3 Bdg | fge dBG | ~A3 BAB |
~G3 EGD | ~G3 Bdg | ~e3 dBG | AGF GBA |
~G3 EGD | ~G3 Bdg | fge dBG | ~A3 BAB |
~G3 EGD | ~G3 Bdg | ~e3 dBG | AGF GBd |
gab agf | fgd edB | deg edB | AGA BG/2B/2d |
gab agf | fgd edB | deg edB | AGF GG/2B/2d |
gab agf | fgd edB | deg edB | AGA BAB |
~G3 EGD | ~G3 Bdg | ~e3 dBG | AGF G3 ||
X:115
T:Paddy's Resource
R:jig
Z:Transcribed by Dave Marshall
M:6/8
K:G
|: ~G3 EGD | GBd e2d | gBB BAB | cBc AGE |
~G3 EGD | GBd e2d | gBB BAB | cAF G3 :|
|: GBd GBd | GBd cBA | GBd eag | fdd def |
~g3 ~f3 | ege dcB | ~c3 ABc | BGF G3 :|
X:1
T:Butlers of Glen Avenue, The
M:6/8
L:1/8
C:Tony Sullivan
R:jig
D:Danú: Think Before You Think
Z:Devin McCabe
K:G ~G3 EGD|~G3 EGD|~G3 BGG|dGG (3Bcd A| !
~G3 EGD|~G3 EGD|GAB deg|deg edB:|
!:deg ~b3|bab deg|~b3 bag|edB deg|
!~b3 bab|agg bgg|agg efg|deg edB:|
# Posted on September 13th 2007 by Ben Steen
Re: trouble with ABC tune search
A little cleaner on that last tune;
X:1
T:Butlers of Glen Avenue, The
M:6/8
L:1/8
C:Tony Sullivan
R:jig
D:Danú: Think Before You Think
Z:Devin McCabe
K:G
~G3 EGD|~G3 EGD|~G3 BGG|dGG (3Bcd A| !
~G3 EGD|~G3 EGD|GAB deg|deg edB:|!
:deg ~b3|bab deg|~b3 bag|edB deg|!
~b3 bab|agg bgg|agg efg|deg edB:|
John Chambers tells me that is just the way he gets 'em.
Why fix someone else's mistake?
# Posted on September 13th 2007 by Ben Steen
Re: trouble with ABC tune search
Thanks TheMuse!!! The Mouse In The Mug it is!
Strange that when I did a search using that exact first bar:
~G3 EGD that tune did not come up.
No, there's no tune list at the session, you just show up and play.
# Posted on September 16th 2007 by Richard D Cook
Re: trouble with ABC tune search
Thank you Mr. Cook. I checked that out. The search function under the Tunes 'Advanced' tab is different from the one on the home page. Try a search of TheSession from the home page. ~G3 EGD should return:
#1 Roaring Barmaid
#2 The Mouse in The Mug
#3 The Road to Skye
#4 The Maid on The Green ~G3 egd
# Posted on September 16th 2007 by Ben Steen
Re: trouble with ABC tune search
Sorry, Maid on The Green begins ~G3 eGD
Happy searching.
# Posted on September 16th 2007 by Ben Steen