Ever since I heard, and noticed, it the first time, (perhaps on Lunasa or Danu?) I've been intrigued by rolling right out of a reel into a jig - it sounded cool! Do any of you do this in your sessions, and if so, which tunes do you connect? Or is this just session taboo?
The main thing is that you must know what's coming in order to do this well in a group. If everyone sitting in the circle knows what's up, well, why the hell not. But if you have a lot of people unfamiliar with the set, its sort of impolite because it smacks slightly of "those who know". Usually you don't mix types of tunes together, but if you're all familiar with the set, it's just peachy.
Hi cdavick
Around these parts the change from a Jig into a reel is quite common but I can't think of any the other way round.
Do you keep the pulse, or the 1/8 note length the same when changing?
Yes, it could be the other way around - jig to reel (I guess I wasn't paying that close of attention after all!). Where is "these parts", Pied? And thanks, Henk, I'll give that one a try.
Colleen
Manchester where, amongst other things, the recorder is one of the more popular instruments played at sessions.
I think the Chieftains started this thing of mixing tune types. It works well in a band context because it's unexpected. You can probably do it in a session too, but once everybody starts doing it, what's the fun?
In the Molloy/Brady/Peoples CD there's a set with a hornpipe followed by Out in the Ocean (jig). The reason it's cute is because of course hornpipes are associated with saylors and the ocean.
Ah, the Royal Navy. In those *ante* antiscorbutic days fiddlers and even fifers would sign on to a man-o-war with the surgeon. Someone in the top brass got it into his head that sailors dancing about might ward off the scourge or scruvy. Ah, but what's our next step to be? A horn pipe! This dance could be performed in a relativly confined space and required no partner. Hmmm.
I gotta believe the crew was happy just to have some tunes on board. Even the back-breaking task of taking in the anchor chain could be lightened with a tune from the shipboard musician.
Case in point:
"Heave away. What kind of drawling tune is that you Fifer? Strike up Off She Goes or Drops of Brandy. Aye, that is the tune."
There are a number of tunes that can be played as a Jig and a Reel - Hughie Travers is one, and you can swap from one to the other and back. I havent posted them yet but they are on JCs tunefinder
I think the usual medley is jig to reel. Square dance sets normally have three sets with a jig for the first set and sometimes the second set and a reel sometimes for the second set and always a
This is very common, almost mandatory, for contradances in midwest US. In fact, there are several set dances that do it both directions, e.g.:
6X(jig - reel - slow march), which transitions from jig to reel to march at half tempo, then straight back into the jig at full tempo. Takes some getting used to but works for the dance.
Reel to jig sets?
Reel to jig sets?
Ever since I heard, and noticed, it the first time, (perhaps on Lunasa or Danu?) I've been intrigued by rolling right out of a reel into a jig - it sounded cool! Do any of you do this in your sessions, and if so, which tunes do you connect? Or is this just session taboo?
Colleen
# Posted on March 12th 2003 by cdavick
Re: Reel to jig sets?
The main thing is that you must know what's coming in order to do this well in a group. If everyone sitting in the circle knows what's up, well, why the hell not. But if you have a lot of people unfamiliar with the set, its sort of impolite because it smacks slightly of "those who know". Usually you don't mix types of tunes together, but if you're all familiar with the set, it's just peachy.
Zina
# Posted on March 12th 2003 by Zina Lee
Re: Reel to jig sets?
Perhaps it's more a performance group catchy thing.... it does break up the deedles a bit for the ear.
# Posted on March 12th 2003 by cdavick
Re: Reel to jig sets?
a set I found out myself is: portarlington/kesh/shaskeen. I always make sure to announce it; so only fit for small sessions
# Posted on March 12th 2003 by Henk Bos
Re: Reel to jig sets?
Hi cdavick
Around these parts the change from a Jig into a reel is quite common but I can't think of any the other way round.
Do you keep the pulse, or the 1/8 note length the same when changing?
All the best PP
# Posted on March 12th 2003 by Pied Piper
Re: Reel to jig sets?
Yes, it could be the other way around - jig to reel (I guess I wasn't paying that close of attention after all!). Where is "these parts", Pied? And thanks, Henk, I'll give that one a try.
Colleen
# Posted on March 13th 2003 by cdavick
Re: Reel to jig sets?
I live in the Peoples Free Democratic Republic OF Eccles near Manchester in the County palatine of Lancashire England.
PP
# Posted on March 13th 2003 by Pied Piper
Re: Reel to jig sets?
Manchester where, amongst other things, the recorder is one of the more popular instruments played at sessions.
I think the Chieftains started this thing of mixing tune types. It works well in a band context because it's unexpected. You can probably do it in a session too, but once everybody starts doing it, what's the fun?
In the Molloy/Brady/Peoples CD there's a set with a hornpipe followed by Out in the Ocean (jig). The reason it's cute is because of course hornpipes are associated with saylors and the ocean.
g
# Posted on March 13th 2003 by glauber
Re: Sailor's Hornpipes?
Ah, the Royal Navy. In those *ante* antiscorbutic days fiddlers and even fifers would sign on to a man-o-war with the surgeon. Someone in the top brass got it into his head that sailors dancing about might ward off the scourge or scruvy. Ah, but what's our next step to be? A horn pipe! This dance could be performed in a relativly confined space and required no partner. Hmmm.
I gotta believe the crew was happy just to have some tunes on board. Even the back-breaking task of taking in the anchor chain could be lightened with a tune from the shipboard musician.
Case in point:
"Heave away. What kind of drawling tune is that you Fifer? Strike up Off She Goes or Drops of Brandy. Aye, that is the tune."
(Sailing of H.M.S. Culloden July, 1804)
FWIW,
Gra5ity
# Posted on March 13th 2003 by Gra5ity
Re: Reel and jig tunes?
There are a number of tunes that can be played as a Jig and a Reel - Hughie Travers is one, and you can swap from one to the other and back. I havent posted them yet but they are on JCs tunefinder
# Posted on March 13th 2003 by geoffwright
Re: Hughie Travers pair
The pair of Hughie Travers' reel and jig are now in the tunelist with info on Kitty Hayes
# Posted on March 15th 2003 by geoffwright
Re: Reel to jig sets?
I think the usual medley is jig to reel. Square dance sets normally have three sets with a jig for the first set and sometimes the second set and a reel sometimes for the second set and always a
reel (called breakdown) for the last set. L.
# Posted on March 18th 2003 by leftynow
Re: Reel to jig sets?
This is very common, almost mandatory, for contradances in midwest US. In fact, there are several set dances that do it both directions, e.g.:
6X(jig - reel - slow march), which transitions from jig to reel to march at half tempo, then straight back into the jig at full tempo. Takes some getting used to but works for the dance.
# Posted on March 19th 2003 by ScottC
Re: Reel to jig sets?
A Different twist to the Reel- Jig is the Jig into the Reel which I find a nice change ONCE in awhile. The Colliers is a nice jig into a reel set.
# Posted on March 21st 2003 by Tommy Og