This is surreal.
Was in Stonehaven outdoor pool on Sunday morning at the Aqua Ceilidh. Me and the missus were dancing the Canadian Prawn Dance to the ceildh band Cabrach. A tune starts up: humpty diddley humpty dumpty humpty dumpty doo dah.... The tune seemed strangely familiar. Not surprising. It was one of my own that I posted on thesession last November. I've never played the tune at a session so this site is the only place they could have picked it up.
Anybody else had a similar experience?
Someone told me she played a new composition in a Manchester sesh and a certain top player (with an alliterative name) was tootling along and talking on her mobile phone at the same time.
The following week, the top player was playing this new tune in session. The composer reckoned she had recorded it on her phone and pinched it.
Was it pinched or shared? Is this traditional style of music written to be accredited to the composer, or to be put out there for everyone to play and enjoy? Does seem a bit sneaky though. It would have been better if the "top player" had congratulated her on writing such a lovely tune, if she realised this was the case, and asked her if she minded playing it elsewhere.
Maybe they did a search on "fishy" named tunes just for an Aqua-Ceilidh set .
The thing about picking up tunes at sessions is how would you know they were composed by someone there and not traditional? If you can't tell the difference then that should be some endorsement of the tune's "trad cred", shouldn't it?
Even if someone tells you at the time, how many of us remember exactly what was said about which tune at what time during a session?
In the case of "certain top player" maybe Sh-Sh-she didn't realise or remember, if she was absently minded fingering the melody while on the phone it may have entered her subconscious . Or is it a case of Talent Borrows, Genius Steals ?
The tune was Sheila's Cape Breton Jaunt - you wouldn't use a jig for a barn dance, would you? I reckon it was my own and not something that I had nicked. And when I asked the group what the tune wqas called thay gave the correct title, so thesession was the only place they could have sourced it.
I was very happy that strangers were enjoying playing a tune that I had composed. And, hey, if someone started playing it a session than I would be able to play along!
the real power of a sessiun is when you see the argentine groups who never knew what a sessiun was 2 years ago and now they do and what it has done for their standards
Kevin here from Cabrach. We have been telling everyone about meeting you, it was unfortunate that you left after the ceilidh because we looked for you to have a chat.
It was a bit surreal for us also. You are right about where we got the tune from. We were looking for some good going tunes for the CBD and Sheila's came up as favourite.
Have you written any others. Our band are always on the look out for some new tunes. We try to get away from the usual dance tunes and make things a bit more interesting for the dancers and ourselves.
just another quickie, which part of the Borders you from. My brother Kenn (Banjo Player in Cabrach) and I come from Selkirk. Good friends with Watt Robison.
Kevin,
Yes, I enjoyed the Aqua-Ceilidh. It's a great way to prepare oneself physically and mentally for the day ahead (in beer terms, as it were). Music was good too! Sorry didn't make it to the end but we had non-swimming/dancing friends who wanted to get along to the harbour.
I live about eight miles out of Hawick in the Borthwick valley. I know Wattie and a lot of the musicians in the vicinity.
You could try Jimmy Nagle's "Carter Bar" for the CBD.
The Power of thesession
The Power of thesession
This is surreal.
Was in Stonehaven outdoor pool on Sunday morning at the Aqua Ceilidh. Me and the missus were dancing the Canadian Prawn Dance to the ceildh band Cabrach. A tune starts up: humpty diddley humpty dumpty humpty dumpty doo dah.... The tune seemed strangely familiar. Not surprising. It was one of my own that I posted on thesession last November. I've never played the tune at a session so this site is the only place they could have picked it up.
Anybody else had a similar experience?
# Posted on July 10th 2007 by DonaldK
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I think your "humpty dumpty diddley doo dah" scheme could eclipse dots or ABC for tune learning!
# Posted on July 10th 2007 by yhaalhouse
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can't find it in the tune search though
# Posted on July 10th 2007 by Bren
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Was it your own, or had you heard it before but not realised it when you wrote your tune?
# Posted on July 10th 2007 by bowburner
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Donald posted 2 tunes last november - did they play them as a set?
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/6401
and
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/6393
Would it have been the Jellyfish?
# Posted on July 10th 2007 by Rudall the time
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Someone told me she played a new composition in a Manchester sesh and a certain top player (with an alliterative name) was tootling along and talking on her mobile phone at the same time.
The following week, the top player was playing this new tune in session. The composer reckoned she had recorded it on her phone and pinched it.
# Posted on July 10th 2007 by geoffwright
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Was it pinched or shared? Is this traditional style of music written to be accredited to the composer, or to be put out there for everyone to play and enjoy? Does seem a bit sneaky though. It would have been better if the "top player" had congratulated her on writing such a lovely tune, if she realised this was the case, and asked her if she minded playing it elsewhere.
# Posted on July 10th 2007 by bowburner
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Maybe they did a search on "fishy" named tunes just for an Aqua-Ceilidh set .
The thing about picking up tunes at sessions is how would you know they were composed by someone there and not traditional? If you can't tell the difference then that should be some endorsement of the tune's "trad cred", shouldn't it?
Even if someone tells you at the time, how many of us remember exactly what was said about which tune at what time during a session?
In the case of "certain top player" maybe Sh-Sh-she didn't realise or remember, if she was absently minded fingering the melody while on the phone it may have entered her subconscious . Or is it a case of Talent Borrows, Genius Steals ?
# Posted on July 10th 2007 by Bren
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Stonehaven Folk Festival
5 - 8 July 2007
Aqua Ceilidh ~ 8 Jul 2007 - 11:00am
http://www.stonehavenfolkfestival.co.uk/
Stonehaven Folk Festival Aqua Ceilidh ~ some pictures
http://www.portalnetwork.net/stonehavenguide/listings/136.html
This event which is unique to Stonehaven Folk Festival, was a resounding succes this year thanks to the excellent summer weather.
Stonehaven's Open Air Pool
http://www.stonehavenopenairpool.co.uk/
Cabrach Ceilidh Band, from Aberdeen and Stonehaven
http://cabrach.org.uk/
# Posted on July 10th 2007 by ceolachan
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The tune was Sheila's Cape Breton Jaunt - you wouldn't use a jig for a barn dance, would you? I reckon it was my own and not something that I had nicked. And when I asked the group what the tune wqas called thay gave the correct title, so thesession was the only place they could have sourced it.
I was very happy that strangers were enjoying playing a tune that I had composed. And, hey, if someone started playing it a session than I would be able to play along!
# Posted on July 10th 2007 by DonaldK
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Great tune.
# Posted on July 10th 2007 by Pere
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Credit to you then Donald!
# Posted on July 10th 2007 by bowburner
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I think that this is a good story........
maybe it will say something to those who think that 'original' tunes are a waste of time on this site.
# Posted on July 10th 2007 by morning star
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the real power of a sessiun is when you see the argentine groups who never knew what a sessiun was 2 years ago and now they do and what it has done for their standards
# Posted on July 12th 2007 by jjohara
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Hi,
Kevin here from Cabrach. We have been telling everyone about meeting you, it was unfortunate that you left after the ceilidh because we looked for you to have a chat.
It was a bit surreal for us also. You are right about where we got the tune from. We were looking for some good going tunes for the CBD and Sheila's came up as favourite.
Have you written any others. Our band are always on the look out for some new tunes. We try to get away from the usual dance tunes and make things a bit more interesting for the dancers and ourselves.
Did you enjoy the Aqua-Ceilidh?
Cheers K
# Posted on July 13th 2007 by Stoneyman
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Donald,
just another quickie, which part of the Borders you from. My brother Kenn (Banjo Player in Cabrach) and I come from Selkirk. Good friends with Watt Robison.
K
# Posted on July 13th 2007 by Stoneyman
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Kevin,
Yes, I enjoyed the Aqua-Ceilidh. It's a great way to prepare oneself physically and mentally for the day ahead (in beer terms, as it were). Music was good too! Sorry didn't make it to the end but we had non-swimming/dancing friends who wanted to get along to the harbour.
I live about eight miles out of Hawick in the Borthwick valley. I know Wattie and a lot of the musicians in the vicinity.
You could try Jimmy Nagle's "Carter Bar" for the CBD.
# Posted on July 14th 2007 by DonaldK