Anyone here goin to the all britain fleadh this year? I'm pretty much ready but I really need a new hornpipe to learn. Can anyone give any good suggestions to a good hornpipe for an Uilleann piper to play?
There will be music and singing sessions over the weekend in two nearby local pubs, within walking distance and both nextdoor to each other ~ 'The Unicorn' & 'The Moorbrook', North Street (A6 / Garstang Road), and a ceili Saturday night at the Students Union venue '53 Degrees'. There will be musicians and dancers coming from all over 'Breataine' to enjoy the craic ~ from England, Scotland, Cymru/Wales and Eire/Ireland...
The venue for the Saturday night ceili, '53 Degrees', Fylde Road, is only a short walk from the main venues. Iis split into two parts, the largest, with a capacity of over 1,000, is blessed with a "sprung-wooden-dance-floor"... There's also a 50 foot stage and a mezzanine area to oversee the goings on. The venue also has a smaller 'Club' area which includes a stage, a dance floor and a DJ booth.
Whatever you choose, I'd recommend learning two hornpipes for the competition, in the event that the adjudicators call for a play-off and specify hornpipes. I don't know if this ever happens in your neck of the woods, but in the event of identical scores, it can separate the competitor who just played four tunes reallywell and knows the repertoire from the competitor who can play four tunes really well.
Scrappy, as you don't seem to have many hornpipes yet, and if it is just wanting to boost your repertoire for session playing, here's some from a few sources that were about 'common session tunes', and more tunes of the other forms, like reels and jigs, can be found if you do a search here in the discussions (with a few additions, especially 'set dances'). The hornpipe sections are sadly small ~
HORNPIPES (& Set Dances)
The Ace and Deuce of Pipering
The Clareman's
An Comhra Donn
Big John's Hornpipe
The Blackbird
Bonaparte's Retreat
The Boys Of Bluehill
Chief O'Neil's Favorite
Delahanty's (aka the Wicklow)
Dunphy's
The Fairies'
The Flowing Tide
The Garden of Daisies
The Golden Castle Hornpipe
The Goodnatured Man
The Job of Journeywork
Harvest Home
King Of The Fairies
Liverpool Hornpipe
The Lodge Road
Murphy's Hornpipe
Off To California
The Plains of Boyle
Pretty Maggie Morrisey
Rickett's Hornpipe
The Rights Of Man
The Stack of Wheat
Staten Island Hornpipe
The Swan ~ Sean Ryan's take on Scotland the Brave, fun
Walsh's / Willy Walsh's Hornpipe
But I still think you should consider learning a few highland flings. If you want to see what's available, just do a 'tune' search with either 'highland', or 'fling' on their own, or together...
Good luck in the All-Britain Dominic. As for playing a jig after a slip jig, our session frequently play Morrison's after the Kid on the Mountain which works a treat. If you do decide on barndances don't forget Vincent Broderick's Around the Fairy Fort and The New Broom.
Just another question, is there a specific way to play Barndances? Like hornpipes, for example, have that dotted rhythm.
I don't really know how to play barndances, as my focus when I'm doing session work is stuff like spillane, moving hearts, john McSherry ect.
"Chitty, Chitty, Bang, Bang" ~ but your best bet would be to get someone to teach you one of the man barndances, along with some good listening... For really old takes on it, recorded, I'm quite fond of Morrison, and some of the early ceili bands, like "The Four Provinces", and the one that Mairéad Ní Mhaonaigh's da played with, "The Pride of Erin", a lovely bunch, but I don't know if they ever recorded any, but Francie is a good source for ear training. In that family you can include Germans and schottisches, though the dances are different for each the music shares much in common.
"Chitty, Chitty, Bang, Bang" is also so you don't take it too seriously. It is lighthearted and fun, cheerful stuff, bouncy, but that doesn't mean you basketball it to hell, as a musician or a dancer... Others who played regularly for dancers are Joe Derrane and Jerry O'Brien, a CD available of them is "Irish Accordion Masters".
I'm repeating myself, as I've told this tale in some form on here previously, but a group of us, mostly locals, were playing through a number of these tunes up North, young and old, when some lovely lass came in through the front door of the pub and drew our attention, but didn't stop our fun. Then when we finished, she having sat down amongst us and made herself at home, she said something derogatory about what we were about, in an American accent you curdle Guiness with ~ that what we'd been playing "wasn't Irish", and could we now "get down to some 'real music'"... Our initial interest was gone. We cold shouldered her by packing our instruments away, temporarily, and she was soon on her way to pester someone else. She may have been cute when she came through the door but after opening up her mouth we saw the bitch in the witch and sent her off on her broom to spoil someone else's fun, or to find more of her own ilk to hang with.
Anyway, I came back here with just a little more for you, though please remember this excellent resource is based on what recordings he has at hand, not on the full corpus of what is out there, but it is something else to check out ~
The first two are tied for number of recordings listed on this site == 17
1.) The Stack of Barley
1.) Dunphy's
3.) The Rights of Man
4.) The Boys of Bluehill
5.) The Harvest Home
6.) The Derry
7.) The Liverpool
8.) Bryne's
9.) The Plains of Boyle
10.) Off to California
Let me know how it goes... Best of luck, and if you go at it with the right attitude, like uilleann pipers before you, you'll have a blast playing swung tunes, hornpipes and all the others too.
Thanks Ceolachan for your Top 10 lists - the Barn Dance one was invaluable as these tunes are not all that commonly played but, without exception, have teriffic melodies. Gonna have to set aside some learning time !
I'm tagging this thread so hopefully any searches regarding hornpipes will find this. There is also one on English hornpipes too. We'll see.
To finish up, here are the tunes in this realm as listed here ~
2007 Comhaltas Syllabus:
Suggested Melodies for the Junior Cycle ~
HORNPIPES
Ben Hill
Spellan’s Fiddle
Callaghan’s
The Derry Hornpipe
The Fisher
The Friendly Visit
Chief O’Neill’s Favourite
Alexander’s Hornpipe
The Plains of Boyle
Kitty’s Wedding
Paddy O’Brien’s
The Few Bob
An Comhra Donn
The Home Ruler
Cronin’s
Off to California
The Boys of Blue Hill
The Harvest Home
The Tailor’s Twist
Cruach an Choirce
Cornphíopa Lady Alexander (Alexander HP)
Cornphíopa Uí Bhriain
The Pleasures of Hope
Garraí na bhFeileoig
Miss Galvin
Suggested Melodies for the Senior Cycle ~
HORNPIPES
Fuaim na Farraige
The High Level
An Móinteáin
The Exiles Return
Dick Sand’s Hornpipe
Flaherty’s Hornpipe
The Dancing Master
Cornphíopa an Fhlaitheartaigh
Old Man Quinn
The Shaskeen
Johnny Cope
Chief O’Neill’s Favourite
Kitty’s Wedding
The Liverpool Hornpipe
Spellan the Fiddler
The Sweep’s Hornpipe
The Quarrelsome Piper
The Groves
BARN DANCES
John McKenna’s
The Curlew Hills
Peach Blossoms
If there weren’t any women in the World
The Belle of the Ball
Hayes’ Favourite
The Merry Priest
Thart timpeall Lios na Síthe
An Scuab Nua
Michael Coleman’s
Flanigan meets O’Hanlon
Chaffpoole Post
SCHOTTISCHE
Castles in the Air
Sweet Flowers of Milltown
The Festival
Queen Anne’s
Green Grow the Rushes O!
The Cat that Kitted in Jamie’s Wig
Miss Crawford
Killarney Wonder
FLINGS
Fling No 2
Mrs Galvin’s
John Roche’s
Love will you marry me
Johnny will you marry me
Knocktoran Fair
Moneymusk
An Buachaill Dreoite
Cous Teehan’s
Up and Down the Hill
The Miller of Drone
Mary Brennan’s Fling
SET DANCES
The Three Sea Captains
The Garden of Daisies
The Ace and Deuce of Pipering
The Kilkenny Races
The Princess Royal
Poll Ha’penny
The Blackbird
Madame Bonaparte
King of the Fairies
The Job of Journeywork
Rub the Bag
Jockey at the Fair
The Hunt
Bonaparte’s Retreat
The Lodge Road
St. Patrick’s Day
Those are usually highland flings, also sometimes called single hornpipes, single barndances, single schottisches, highland schotishes. If you do an open search of the tunes section for just 'highland' or 'fling' of the combined 'highland fling', you'll find them all over the place. They have been entered into the categories of hornpipes, barndances, strathspeys and reels. A number of single reels, and some double reels, were highland flings in a former life. The classic structure, because it defines the dances well, was 16 measures and the B-part had a second ending of from 2 to 4 bars in length...
I haven't finished tagging them all yet. I suspect there are some more scattered in amongst the various categories, especially reels... Three melodies that get played as such have just been added. I wasn't through doing the search and gather and transcribing for the latest, but since you and dinn asked I've gone ahead and added it to the database ~
"Frank Cassidy's Highland Fling" / "Séamus Ó Beirn's Highland" /
"Donegal Highland"
Key signature: Dmajor
Submitted on June 2nd 2007 by ceolachan. http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/7297
Feadh Ceoil na Britaine
Feadh Ceoil na Britaine
Anyone here goin to the all britain fleadh this year? I'm pretty much ready but I really need a new hornpipe to learn. Can anyone give any good suggestions to a good hornpipe for an Uilleann piper to play?
Cheers lads
Slán agus beannacht!
# Posted on May 29th 2007 by Scrappy the Godo
Re: Feadh Ceoil na Britaine
Off to California!
# Posted on May 29th 2007 by Aberandy
"Fleadh Na Breataine"
http://www.thesession.org/events/display/337
June 30th 2007, 12:00pm – July 1st 2007 6:00pm
The University of Central Lancashire
Greenbank & Harrington Buildings
Victoria Street
Preston, Lancashire, England
Telephone: 01254 830331
Email: preston@comhaltas.net
Website: http://Prestoncomhaltas.org
There will be music and singing sessions over the weekend in two nearby local pubs, within walking distance and both nextdoor to each other ~ 'The Unicorn' & 'The Moorbrook', North Street (A6 / Garstang Road), and a ceili Saturday night at the Students Union venue '53 Degrees'. There will be musicians and dancers coming from all over 'Breataine' to enjoy the craic ~ from England, Scotland, Cymru/Wales and Eire/Ireland...
The venue for the Saturday night ceili, '53 Degrees', Fylde Road, is only a short walk from the main venues. Iis split into two parts, the largest, with a capacity of over 1,000, is blessed with a "sprung-wooden-dance-floor"... There's also a 50 foot stage and a mezzanine area to oversee the goings on. The venue also has a smaller 'Club' area which includes a stage, a dance floor and a DJ booth.
http://www.53degrees.net/
# Posted on May 29th 2007 by ceolachan
Re: Feadh Ceoil na Britaine
Scrappy, what hornpipes do you already play, that would give us some idea of where you are and maybe even where to send you?
# Posted on May 29th 2007 by ceolachan
Re: Feadh Ceoil na Britaine
"Cooley's Hornpipe" ~ by Paddy O'Brien
Key signature: G Major (or A)
Submitted on October 17th 2002 by lazyhound.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/1052
Why not break the mold and learn something else from the family of swing ~ highland fling, strathspey barndance/schottische ~ for example?
# Posted on May 29th 2007 by ceolachan
Re: Feadh Ceoil na Britaine
Two of my favourite hornpipes would be:-
Cronin's - http://comhaltas.ie/music/detail/cronins_hornpipe/ and
O'Callaghan's - http://comhaltas.ie/music/detail/ocallaghans/
Mind you I can't guarantee what ones the adjudicators will be looking for!
# Posted on May 29th 2007 by Bannerman
Re: Feadh Ceoil na Britaine
hornpipes i can play:
golden eagle
rights of man
:S im not a hornpipe man to be honest, i love goin wild with jigs and reels.
cheers for the suggestions tho
Slán
# Posted on May 29th 2007 by Scrappy the Godo
Re: Feadh Ceoil na Britaine
Whatever you choose, I'd recommend learning two hornpipes for the competition, in the event that the adjudicators call for a play-off and specify hornpipes. I don't know if this ever happens in your neck of the woods, but in the event of identical scores, it can separate the competitor who just played four tunes reallywell and knows the repertoire from the competitor who can play four tunes really well.
# Posted on May 29th 2007 by Tracie
Re: Feadh Ceoil na Britaine
Scrappy, as you don't seem to have many hornpipes yet, and if it is just wanting to boost your repertoire for session playing, here's some from a few sources that were about 'common session tunes', and more tunes of the other forms, like reels and jigs, can be found if you do a search here in the discussions (with a few additions, especially 'set dances'). The hornpipe sections are sadly small
~
HORNPIPES (& Set Dances)
The Ace and Deuce of Pipering
The Clareman's
An Comhra Donn
Big John's Hornpipe
The Blackbird
Bonaparte's Retreat
The Boys Of Bluehill
Chief O'Neil's Favorite
Delahanty's (aka the Wicklow)
Dunphy's
The Fairies'
The Flowing Tide
The Garden of Daisies
The Golden Castle Hornpipe
The Goodnatured Man
The Job of Journeywork
Harvest Home
King Of The Fairies
Liverpool Hornpipe
The Lodge Road
Murphy's Hornpipe
Off To California
The Plains of Boyle
Pretty Maggie Morrisey
Rickett's Hornpipe
The Rights Of Man
The Stack of Wheat
Staten Island Hornpipe
The Swan ~ Sean Ryan's take on Scotland the Brave, fun
Walsh's / Willy Walsh's Hornpipe
# Posted on May 30th 2007 by ceolachan
Re: Feadh Ceoil na Britaine
Highland Flings
But I still think you should consider learning a few highland flings. If you want to see what's available, just do a 'tune' search with either 'highland', or 'fling' on their own, or together...
# Posted on May 30th 2007 by ceolachan
Re: Feadh Ceoil na Britaine
I've just added this, partly spurred on by you, partly spurred on by someone else requesting it ~
"The Pockar" ~ hornpipe
Key signature: D Major
Submitted on May 30th 2007 by ceolachan.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/7286
& these are from a suggested list of Donegal session tunes:
Hornpipes:
The Atlantic Roar (aka Tuam na Farraige)
The High Level Hornpipe
The Low Level Hornpipe
The Japanese
The Glengesh (aka Dr. Peter's)
Barndances:
Francie Mooney's
If There Weren't Any Women in the World
Mick Carr's
# Posted on May 30th 2007 by ceolachan
Re: Feadh Ceoil na Britaine
cheers everyone for all your responces, i'm sure to win the all britain uilleann pipe yet :D
Slán agus beannacht
# Posted on May 30th 2007 by Scrappy the Godo
Re: Feadh Ceoil na Britaine
Good luck in the All-Britain Dominic. As for playing a jig after a slip jig, our session frequently play Morrison's after the Kid on the Mountain which works a treat. If you do decide on barndances don't forget Vincent Broderick's Around the Fairy Fort and The New Broom.
# Posted on May 30th 2007 by Bannerman
Re: Feadh Ceoil na Britaine
Have you earned your stripes and done your 21 years duty yet?
# Posted on May 31st 2007 by ceolachan
Re: Feadh Ceoil na Britaine
nope, more like 2 years duty
Can't wait to see how good I am after 21 years of piping, see if ol' seamus was right...
# Posted on May 31st 2007 by Scrappy the Godo
Re: Feadh Ceoil na Britaine
Just another question, is there a specific way to play Barndances? Like hornpipes, for example, have that dotted rhythm.
I don't really know how to play barndances, as my focus when I'm doing session work is stuff like spillane, moving hearts, john McSherry ect.
# Posted on May 31st 2007 by Scrappy the Godo
Re: Feadh Ceoil na Britaine
Here's a phrase, from a book, movie and play ~
"Chitty, Chitty, Bang, Bang" ~ but your best bet would be to get someone to teach you one of the man barndances, along with some good listening... For really old takes on it, recorded, I'm quite fond of Morrison, and some of the early ceili bands, like "The Four Provinces", and the one that Mairéad Ní Mhaonaigh's da played with, "The Pride of Erin", a lovely bunch, but I don't know if they ever recorded any, but Francie is a good source for ear training. In that family you can include Germans and schottisches, though the dances are different for each the music shares much in common.
"Chitty, Chitty, Bang, Bang" is also so you don't take it too seriously. It is lighthearted and fun, cheerful stuff, bouncy, but that doesn't mean you basketball it to hell, as a musician or a dancer... Others who played regularly for dancers are Joe Derrane and Jerry O'Brien, a CD available of them is "Irish Accordion Masters".
I'm repeating myself, as I've told this tale in some form on here previously, but a group of us, mostly locals, were playing through a number of these tunes up North, young and old, when some lovely lass came in through the front door of the pub and drew our attention, but didn't stop our fun. Then when we finished, she having sat down amongst us and made herself at home, she said something derogatory about what we were about, in an American accent you curdle Guiness with ~ that what we'd been playing "wasn't Irish", and could we now "get down to some 'real music'"... Our initial interest was gone. We cold shouldered her by packing our instruments away, temporarily, and she was soon on her way to pester someone else. She may have been cute when she came through the door but after opening up her mouth we saw the bitch in the witch and sent her off on her broom to spoil someone else's fun, or to find more of her own ilk to hang with.
Anyway, I came back here with just a little more for you, though please remember this excellent resource is based on what recordings he has at hand, not on the full corpus of what is out there, but it is something else to check out ~
Top 10 Hornpipes of the Century ~
http://www.irishtune.info/rhythm/top-hornpipes.htm
The first two are tied for number of recordings listed on this site == 17
1.) The Stack of Barley
1.) Dunphy's
3.) The Rights of Man
4.) The Boys of Bluehill
5.) The Harvest Home
6.) The Derry
7.) The Liverpool
8.) Bryne's
9.) The Plains of Boyle
10.) Off to California
Top 10 Barn Dances of the Century ~
http://www.irishtune.info/rhythm/top-barn+dances.htm
Top 10 Schottisches of the Century ~
http://www.irishtune.info/rhythm/top-schottisches.htm
Top 10 Set Dances of the Century ~
http://www.irishtune.info/rhythm/top-set+dances.htm
Let me know how it goes... Best of luck, and if you go at it with the right attitude, like uilleann pipers before you, you'll have a blast playing swung tunes, hornpipes and all the others too.
# Posted on June 1st 2007 by ceolachan
Re: Feadh Ceoil na Britaine
Thanks Ceolachan for your Top 10 lists - the Barn Dance one was invaluable as these tunes are not all that commonly played but, without exception, have teriffic melodies. Gonna have to set aside some learning time !
# Posted on June 1st 2007 by Bannerman
Hornpipes ~ Hornpipes ~ Hornpipes ~ Hornpipes
hornpipes ~ hornpipes ~ hornpipes ~ hornpipes
I'm tagging this thread so hopefully any searches regarding hornpipes will find this. There is also one on English hornpipes too. We'll see.
To finish up, here are the tunes in this realm as listed here ~
2007 Comhaltas Syllabus:
Suggested Melodies for the Junior Cycle ~
HORNPIPES
Ben Hill
Spellan’s Fiddle
Callaghan’s
The Derry Hornpipe
The Fisher
The Friendly Visit
Chief O’Neill’s Favourite
Alexander’s Hornpipe
The Plains of Boyle
Kitty’s Wedding
Paddy O’Brien’s
The Few Bob
An Comhra Donn
The Home Ruler
Cronin’s
Off to California
The Boys of Blue Hill
The Harvest Home
The Tailor’s Twist
Cruach an Choirce
Cornphíopa Lady Alexander (Alexander HP)
Cornphíopa Uí Bhriain
The Pleasures of Hope
Garraí na bhFeileoig
Miss Galvin
Suggested Melodies for the Senior Cycle ~
HORNPIPES
Fuaim na Farraige
The High Level
An Móinteáin
The Exiles Return
Dick Sand’s Hornpipe
Flaherty’s Hornpipe
The Dancing Master
Cornphíopa an Fhlaitheartaigh
Old Man Quinn
The Shaskeen
Johnny Cope
Chief O’Neill’s Favourite
Kitty’s Wedding
The Liverpool Hornpipe
Spellan the Fiddler
The Sweep’s Hornpipe
The Quarrelsome Piper
The Groves
BARN DANCES
John McKenna’s
The Curlew Hills
Peach Blossoms
If there weren’t any women in the World
The Belle of the Ball
Hayes’ Favourite
The Merry Priest
Thart timpeall Lios na Síthe
An Scuab Nua
Michael Coleman’s
Flanigan meets O’Hanlon
Chaffpoole Post
SCHOTTISCHE
Castles in the Air
Sweet Flowers of Milltown
The Festival
Queen Anne’s
Green Grow the Rushes O!
The Cat that Kitted in Jamie’s Wig
Miss Crawford
Killarney Wonder
FLINGS
Fling No 2
Mrs Galvin’s
John Roche’s
Love will you marry me
Johnny will you marry me
Knocktoran Fair
Moneymusk
An Buachaill Dreoite
Cous Teehan’s
Up and Down the Hill
The Miller of Drone
Mary Brennan’s Fling
SET DANCES
The Three Sea Captains
The Garden of Daisies
The Ace and Deuce of Pipering
The Kilkenny Races
The Princess Royal
Poll Ha’penny
The Blackbird
Madame Bonaparte
King of the Fairies
The Job of Journeywork
Rub the Bag
Jockey at the Fair
The Hunt
Bonaparte’s Retreat
The Lodge Road
St. Patrick’s Day
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
hornpipes ~ hornpipes ~ hornpipes ~ hornpipes ~ etc...
# Posted on June 1st 2007 by ceolachan
Re: Feadh Ceoil na Britaine
Hey Mr. Hornpipe... are there any other hornpipes like Miss Galvin's?
# Posted on June 1st 2007 by Phantom Button
Hornpipe or Highland Fling?
"Mrs. Galvin's Hornpipe" ~ 32 measures
Key signature: D Major
Submitted on December 21st 2002 by spoon.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/1234
"Mrs. Galvin's Highland Fling" ~ 16 measures & a 2nd ending
Key signature: D Major
Submitted on March 29th 2002 by Mad Baloney.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/624
# Posted on June 2nd 2007 by ceolachan
Hornpipes ~ Hornpipes ~ Hornpipes ~ Hornpipes & assorted relatives
Miss, Mrs. or Ms....
# Posted on June 2nd 2007 by ceolachan
Re: Feadh Ceoil na Britaine
Perhaps I should have been more specific. I mean are there other 16 bar hornpipes?
# Posted on June 2nd 2007 by Phantom Button
Re: Feadh Ceoil na Britaine
Those are usually highland flings, also sometimes called single hornpipes, single barndances, single schottisches, highland schotishes. If you do an open search of the tunes section for just 'highland' or 'fling' of the combined 'highland fling', you'll find them all over the place. They have been entered into the categories of hornpipes, barndances, strathspeys and reels. A number of single reels, and some double reels, were highland flings in a former life. The classic structure, because it defines the dances well, was 16 measures and the B-part had a second ending of from 2 to 4 bars in length...
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/index/search?name=highland&type_id=&mode_id=
# Posted on June 2nd 2007 by ceolachan
Re: Feadh Ceoil na Britaine
Yes... that's the sort of hornpipe i'm interested in. Do you know of any more?
# Posted on June 2nd 2007 by Phantom Button
Re: Feadh Ceoil na Britaine
'c' just explained to you that they're not hornpipes, and showed you how to search for as many as you would need in one lifetime.
Thanks, 'c'.
# Posted on June 2nd 2007 by Dr. Dow
Re: Feadh Ceoil na Britaine
I haven't finished tagging them all yet. I suspect there are some more scattered in amongst the various categories, especially reels... Three melodies that get played as such have just been added. I wasn't through doing the search and gather and transcribing for the latest, but since you and dinn asked I've gone ahead and added it to the database ~
"Frank Cassidy's Highland Fling" / "Séamus Ó Beirn's Highland" /
"Donegal Highland"
Key signature: Dmajor
Submitted on June 2nd 2007 by ceolachan.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/7297
"The Laird O' Thrums" / "Frank Cassidy's Highland"
Key signature: Amajor
Submitted on May 30th 2007 by benhall.1.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/7284
"The Lass O' Corrie Mill" / "The Carlisle Lasses"
Key signature: Fmajor
Submitted on May 28th 2007 by benhall.1.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/7274
# Posted on June 2nd 2007 by ceolachan