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Dose anyone think that Irish music is actually necessary at a session?
Dose anyone think that Irish music is actually necessary at a session?
Sorry...just thought I would take this rubbish towards its final destination. While we are at it,
Dose anyone think...
That Guinness is overrated?
That you need intelligence to operate a pc?
Re: Dose anyone think that Irish music is actually necessary at a session?
Yep.. It becomes sort of tempting to attempt a 'unifying' argument and insult ITM or all ITM instruments and muso's.....just to watch the tide turn and everyone defend each other.
So maybe does anyone think musicians are necessary?
And yes....Guinness is overrated :-Q
And no....they attempt to build intelligence into PC's to overcome the fact it's this flawed lot called humans that operate them
Re: Dose anyone think that Irish music is actually necessary at a session?
Irish Guinness used definitely to be better than English Guinness. I gather it's all now made in Dublin, but the Guinness in England hasn't got better. The latter is probably overrated and certainly overpriced. Still, you can make a very nice cake with it. Over a long day in Ireland, actually, I'd have Murphy's to pace myself.
A non-playing session could become a darts match, with the melody players throwing and the backers doing the quick sums and calling out which numbers and thier multiples to aim for.
Re: Dose anyone think that Irish music is actually necessary at a session?
To answer your main question:
Of course not. You can get Scottish, English, French and American sessions - and that's just here in London. All done, so I've been told (and have witnessed) with the same format and etiquette or whatever, as Irish sessions.
To answer your other 2 questions: Yes, most certainly, and way overpriced.
No. Look at me for example.
Now after all these internecine feuds maybe peace will break out.
Re: Dose anyone think that a session is actually necessary at a session?
Yes, I had a look at the plonkerometer thread and
now I know that the jokes on me.
In that thread however, I had another really good laugh when I read a post referring to JDoyle influenced guitar backing as "the biggest crisis in backing since the diet-Cooney fest of the nineties!" I don't know why this sounds so funny to me, (since I have no idea what "diet-Cooney" means), but it cracks me up to no end. I guess I should be thankful that I'm so easily amused.
Re: Dose anyone think that a session is actually necessary at a session?
Thanks for the info. By the way, that was an admirable defense of guitar-backing despite spirited opposition from clever, ruthless, well-entrenched and fortified anti-guitar forces from all over the world. For this I award you the "International Guitarist's Ally Award - Sub-category - Irish Traditional Music Accompaniment". May you always stand your ground in this eternal struggle. Live long and prosper.
Re: Dose anyone think that a session is actually necessary at a session?
Most people who like guitar backing are probably too busy playing music to be on this site defeding themselves and their friends - I comfort myself with that thought everyday
Re: Dose anyone think that Irish music is actually necessary at a session?
Slightly funny but nonetheless very true, in the Uk and Oz copying other cultures is always fashionable, so when Jazz was big, every other Pub or Bar had a suitably named Jazz band complete with lanky Sax players with names like Wes and Duke.
Today its ITM so now the players sit about in circles, wear tweed Irish style caps and have names like Pat and other appropriate sounding labels.
All of these folks are outstanding, needless to say, and mostly could out play the originals by a wide margin of technical skill.
So really it doesn't matter what you play at a session.
By comparison the USA hosts smaller meetings with very high standards but it is entirely ethnic, eg Greek or Irish or Latino etc etc.
Yes we have a few cross over sessions but I would not call these Irish, more like the RTE Orchestra plays country dances, if you have had the pleasure of hearing them.
Off topic but who here likes to play Hornpipes as opposed to Reels?
Re: Dose anyone think that Irish music is actually necessary at a session?
Oh well I suppose its an occupational hazard of old age. Losing everything including the middle of the tune or sentence or whatever I was trying to say.
But seriously, before the current popularity of ITM I rarely heard such good standards among the Irish folks I knew and it was very much a rough and ready product.
Kitchens for the regular meetings, festivals were always house-dances and very rarely a wedding or similar in a Hotel or big Pub. Course that is all gone nowadays.
Its nice to see in other cultures the kind of house shaking energy that used be common in Ireland, is still to be found while they have not yet been taken over by fads and fashion. And saying that I wonder when these folks below will be mobbed off of the map the way ITM has been, though I know it is bound to happen sooner or later.
Enjoy!
A Cretan folk dance, music provided by a man many now say is a genius, Mikhial Tzouganakis the Lauto player.
Re: Dose anyone think that Irish music is actually necessary at a session?
At the Picker's Session last weekend, we survived on a diet of blues and bluegrass, and even English sea-shanties, with monly a smidgen of Irish thrown into the mix.
Re: Dose anyone think that Irish music is actually necessary at a session?
After many, many years of enjoying Guinness I still can't agree that it tastes "yummy." I had to force down my first few pints as a young lad until I developed a necessary tolerance for the stuff.
Re: Dose anyone think that Irish music is actually necessary at a session?
a session (i think ) is supposed to be diverse, otherwise we're still playn the same craic years later, i do a few hungarian folk songs, they're feckn might fiddle tunes, and they a far cry from being irish!
the oul bluegrass numbers are deadly too!!1 as for the guiness, check out the blog on how a good pint is found anywhere in my friends site: irelandlogue.com
Dose anyone think that Irish music is actually necessary at a session?
Dose anyone think that Irish music is actually necessary at a session?
Sorry...just thought I would take this rubbish towards its final destination. While we are at it,
Dose anyone think...
That Guinness is overrated?
That you need intelligence to operate a pc?
# Posted on January 14th 2007 by Greenwiggle
Re: Dose anyone think that Irish music is actually necessary at a session?
Yep.. It becomes sort of tempting to attempt a 'unifying' argument and insult ITM or all ITM instruments and muso's.....just to watch the tide turn and everyone defend each other.
So maybe does anyone think musicians are necessary?
And yes....Guinness is overrated :-Q
And no....they attempt to build intelligence into PC's to overcome the fact it's this flawed lot called humans that operate them
# Posted on January 14th 2007 by FiddleFancy
Re: Dose anyone think that Irish music is actually necessary at a session?
Damn...there was supposed to be a poking out tongue at the end of the guinness thing :-q ?
# Posted on January 14th 2007 by FiddleFancy
Re: Dose anyone think that Irish music is actually necessary at a session?
Guinness = yum
# Posted on January 14th 2007 by SineadE
Re: Dose anyone think that Irish music is actually necessary at a session?
Irish Guinness used definitely to be better than English Guinness. I gather it's all now made in Dublin, but the Guinness in England hasn't got better. The latter is probably overrated and certainly overpriced. Still, you can make a very nice cake with it. Over a long day in Ireland, actually, I'd have Murphy's to pace myself.
A non-playing session could become a darts match, with the melody players throwing and the backers doing the quick sums and calling out which numbers and thier multiples to aim for.
# Posted on January 14th 2007 by nicholas
Re: Dose anyone think that Irish music is actually necessary at a session?
To answer your main question:
Of course not. You can get Scottish, English, French and American sessions - and that's just here in London. All done, so I've been told (and have witnessed) with the same format and etiquette or whatever, as Irish sessions.
To answer your other 2 questions: Yes, most certainly, and way overpriced.
No. Look at me for example.
Now after all these internecine feuds maybe peace will break out.
# Posted on January 14th 2007 by Rudall the time
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BRILLIANT!
# Posted on January 14th 2007 by gwendolen
Dose anyone think that a session is actually necessary at a session?
That's all
# Posted on January 14th 2007 by Linsey Doyle
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No
# Posted on January 14th 2007 by bb
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Dose anyone think that a spellchecker is
actually necessary at thesession.org?
# Posted on January 14th 2007 by halfwaythere
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I think that's a great idea - but I think this is a joke from a few threads back.
# Posted on January 14th 2007 by bb
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What does DNA stand for? National Dislexia Association!
# Posted on January 14th 2007 by woops
Re: Dose anyone think that a session is actually necessary at a session?
Yes, I had a look at the plonkerometer thread and
now I know that the jokes on me.
In that thread however, I had another really good laugh when I read a post referring to JDoyle influenced guitar backing as "the biggest crisis in backing since the diet-Cooney fest of the nineties!" I don't know why this sounds so funny to me, (since I have no idea what "diet-Cooney" means), but it cracks me up to no end. I guess I should be thankful that I'm so easily amused.
# Posted on January 14th 2007 by halfwaythere
Re: Dose anyone think that a session is actually necessary at a session?
You know, how everyone started playing like Steve Cooney - with the triplets etc.
# Posted on January 14th 2007 by bb
Re: Dose anyone think that a session is actually necessary at a session?
Thanks for the info. By the way, that was an admirable defense of guitar-backing despite spirited opposition from clever, ruthless, well-entrenched and fortified anti-guitar forces from all over the world. For this I award you the "International Guitarist's Ally Award - Sub-category - Irish Traditional Music Accompaniment". May you always stand your ground in this eternal struggle. Live long and prosper.
# Posted on January 14th 2007 by halfwaythere
Re: Dose anyone think that a session is actually necessary at a session?
Most people who like guitar backing are probably too busy playing music to be on this site defeding themselves and their friends - I comfort myself with that thought everyday
# Posted on January 14th 2007 by bb
Re: Dose anyone think that Irish music is actually necessary at a session?
Slightly funny but nonetheless very true, in the Uk and Oz copying other cultures is always fashionable, so when Jazz was big, every other Pub or Bar had a suitably named Jazz band complete with lanky Sax players with names like Wes and Duke.
Today its ITM so now the players sit about in circles, wear tweed Irish style caps and have names like Pat and other appropriate sounding labels.
All of these folks are outstanding, needless to say, and mostly could out play the originals by a wide margin of technical skill.
So really it doesn't matter what you play at a session.
By comparison the USA hosts smaller meetings with very high standards but it is entirely ethnic, eg Greek or Irish or Latino etc etc.
Yes we have a few cross over sessions but I would not call these Irish, more like the RTE Orchestra plays country dances, if you have had the pleasure of hearing them.
Off topic but who here likes to play Hornpipes as opposed to Reels?
# Posted on January 14th 2007 by Schlongbow
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You got it right, bb - no time to preach, there are too many sessions to contaminate
# Posted on January 14th 2007 by Janek
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In Oz we dont have people sititng around in tweed caps - cant comment on the names though!
# Posted on January 14th 2007 by bb
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We don't sit around in tweed caps either. We use chairs.
# Posted on January 14th 2007 by Phantom Button
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There's been a recent thread on Hornpipes. I'd like a few more in sessions than one usually gets.
# Posted on January 14th 2007 by nicholas
Re: Dose anyone think that Irish music is actually necessary at a session?
Oh well I suppose its an occupational hazard of old age. Losing everything including the middle of the tune or sentence or whatever I was trying to say.
But seriously, before the current popularity of ITM I rarely heard such good standards among the Irish folks I knew and it was very much a rough and ready product.
Kitchens for the regular meetings, festivals were always house-dances and very rarely a wedding or similar in a Hotel or big Pub. Course that is all gone nowadays.
Its nice to see in other cultures the kind of house shaking energy that used be common in Ireland, is still to be found while they have not yet been taken over by fads and fashion. And saying that I wonder when these folks below will be mobbed off of the map the way ITM has been, though I know it is bound to happen sooner or later.
Enjoy!
A Cretan folk dance, music provided by a man many now say is a genius, Mikhial Tzouganakis the Lauto player.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OV_76EL0JI
# Posted on January 14th 2007 by Schlongbow
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Or was it on porpoise?
# Posted on January 14th 2007 by geoffwright
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At the Picker's Session last weekend, we survived on a diet of blues and bluegrass, and even English sea-shanties, with monly a smidgen of Irish thrown into the mix.
And a mighty session it was.
# Posted on January 15th 2007 by RockyRoader
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After many, many years of enjoying Guinness I still can't agree that it tastes "yummy." I had to force down my first few pints as a young lad until I developed a necessary tolerance for the stuff.
Enjoyable, yes. Yummy, no.
# Posted on January 15th 2007 by grego
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a session (i think ) is supposed to be diverse, otherwise we're still playn the same craic years later, i do a few hungarian folk songs, they're feckn might fiddle tunes, and they a far cry from being irish!
the oul bluegrass numbers are deadly too!!1 as for the guiness, check out the blog on how a good pint is found anywhere in my friends site: irelandlogue.com
# Posted on January 15th 2007 by fishtyfiddle