"Last week (22nd Sept) the DfT increased the size of bag that passengers can take on board planes and allowed musicians to bring an instrument on to an aircraft as a second piece of hand luggage." Daily Telegraph 27th Sept.
with the proviso that larger instruments must have a seat booked - small musical instruments are OK
Ryanair's website still insists you can only take one piece of luggage into the cabin. i.e. Ladies cannot take a laptop AND a handbag.
Are they making up their own rules, ignoring the Government's rulings or just chosing not to publicise it to make more dosh?
I haven't flown Ryanair yet, but experienced the hassle of airlines making up their own rules earlier this month. I was flying to Frankfurt on Singapore Airlines out of JFK. I had the pipes and a laptop as carry-on and two other bags checked. The pipes live in a hard case that is a little bit longer than a fiddle case and about as deep. I've taken them on more than a dozen flights around the United States, England, and Ireland, and never once had any trouble.
So I'm checking into my Singapore airlines flight and the guy looks at the pipes and asks if it is carry-on. I told him yes. He said, "That's a hard case. I don't think you can take that as carry-on."
I said, "That's a very valuable, rare instrument and can't be checked."
So he took me and the pipes over to his supervisor to double check with her. She looked seriously at the case and was like, "Nope... Can't take a hard case as carry-on. That can't be cabin baggage."
I, of course, insisted, "It's a very delicate instrument. I CAN'T check it."
The supervisor told me too bad, I had to check it because hard cases are not allowed in the cabin. The end. We went back and forth in this vein for a bit. I was quite dismayed and had no idea what to do, but checking the pipes was not going to happen. Then someone suggested buying a soft case in the airport, putting the pipes in that, and checking the empty hard case. I ran frantically through the airport to the nearest baggage store, bought a duffle bag, and packed the pipes into it with as much stuffing as I could find. They didn't really fit -- the drones were poking out of the bag, even dissassembled, but it worked well enough.
Thank God I bought that stupid bag. After landing in Frankfurt I had a connecting flight to Amsterdam. The Singapore airlines flight was late so I missed the connection. In the process of getting on a later plane to Amsterdam, my bags remained in Germany. I spent the better part of week travelling from Amsterdam to Durham, UK attempting to track my bags, as I wasn't spending more than one night in any place until I got to Durham. The Amsterdam airport staff were fairly lackadaisical and inefficient about communicating and tracking the luggage. Apparently they were on their way to Newcastle on a KLM flight, but who knew for sure? Miraculously, the bags were waiting for me at the university when I got here -- how still baffles me.
Having my clothes wandering around Europe by themselves is annoying, but not a huge deal. If the pipes had been wandering around Europe alone, oh, it would have been bad. So bad.
i believe it depends on the airline... my friend flew to germany with a small backpack and her violin in the smallest case she had, and got it through (after her dad argued with the airport ppl for a bit!) but i couldn't take mine cos the case was too big...!
but the ladies handbag + laptop should be fine: flying home i had a very full backpack and a cuckoo clock in a large box, and once past the check-in desk there were no issues. i think sometimes it just takes convincing...
Second piece of hand luggage?
Second piece of hand luggage?
"Last week (22nd Sept) the DfT increased the size of bag that passengers can take on board planes and allowed musicians to bring an instrument on to an aircraft as a second piece of hand luggage." Daily Telegraph 27th Sept.
with the proviso that larger instruments must have a seat booked - small musical instruments are OK
Ryanair's website still insists you can only take one piece of luggage into the cabin. i.e. Ladies cannot take a laptop AND a handbag.
Are they making up their own rules, ignoring the Government's rulings or just chosing not to publicise it to make more dosh?
# Posted on September 27th 2006 by geoffwright
Re: Second piece of hand luggage?
I don't know but I flew Ryanair three times in June with a mandolin and small backpack as hand luggage - no problems
# Posted on September 27th 2006 by Bren
Re: Second piece of hand luggage?
It's very possible their website is out of date, try ringing them to confirm, and get the name of a supervisor.
# Posted on September 27th 2006 by Martin Milner
Re: Second piece of hand luggage?
I haven't flown Ryanair yet, but experienced the hassle of airlines making up their own rules earlier this month. I was flying to Frankfurt on Singapore Airlines out of JFK. I had the pipes and a laptop as carry-on and two other bags checked. The pipes live in a hard case that is a little bit longer than a fiddle case and about as deep. I've taken them on more than a dozen flights around the United States, England, and Ireland, and never once had any trouble.
So I'm checking into my Singapore airlines flight and the guy looks at the pipes and asks if it is carry-on. I told him yes. He said, "That's a hard case. I don't think you can take that as carry-on."
I said, "That's a very valuable, rare instrument and can't be checked."
So he took me and the pipes over to his supervisor to double check with her. She looked seriously at the case and was like, "Nope... Can't take a hard case as carry-on. That can't be cabin baggage."
I, of course, insisted, "It's a very delicate instrument. I CAN'T check it."
The supervisor told me too bad, I had to check it because hard cases are not allowed in the cabin. The end. We went back and forth in this vein for a bit. I was quite dismayed and had no idea what to do, but checking the pipes was not going to happen. Then someone suggested buying a soft case in the airport, putting the pipes in that, and checking the empty hard case. I ran frantically through the airport to the nearest baggage store, bought a duffle bag, and packed the pipes into it with as much stuffing as I could find. They didn't really fit -- the drones were poking out of the bag, even dissassembled, but it worked well enough.
Thank God I bought that stupid bag. After landing in Frankfurt I had a connecting flight to Amsterdam. The Singapore airlines flight was late so I missed the connection. In the process of getting on a later plane to Amsterdam, my bags remained in Germany. I spent the better part of week travelling from Amsterdam to Durham, UK attempting to track my bags, as I wasn't spending more than one night in any place until I got to Durham. The Amsterdam airport staff were fairly lackadaisical and inefficient about communicating and tracking the luggage. Apparently they were on their way to Newcastle on a KLM flight, but who knew for sure? Miraculously, the bags were waiting for me at the university when I got here -- how still baffles me.
Having my clothes wandering around Europe by themselves is annoying, but not a huge deal. If the pipes had been wandering around Europe alone, oh, it would have been bad. So bad.
# Posted on September 27th 2006 by DrSilverSpear
Re: Second piece of hand luggage?
i believe it depends on the airline... my friend flew to germany with a small backpack and her violin in the smallest case she had, and got it through (after her dad argued with the airport ppl for a bit!) but i couldn't take mine cos the case was too big...!
but the ladies handbag + laptop should be fine: flying home i had a very full backpack and a cuckoo clock in a large box, and once past the check-in desk there were no issues. i think sometimes it just takes convincing...
# Posted on October 2nd 2006 by leenie